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Another Dynamic of that preflood gathering would be to look up the word taken in the Greek and then look up the word left in the Greek. It 100 percent supports taken to a good place and left or abandoned, which would be bad.

Who are the ones taken.? Exactly who? Half of Earth population taken pre flood to what location? Remember , I debunked the theory that the wicked are ALWAYS taken first. Jesus Said first gather the wheat and put it in my barn, but the tares gather them and burn them in the fire. The one taken...

I had to put him/her on ignore. I am not here to converse with silly people. I found myself shaking my head at every sentence

Just pretend Jesus didn't say what he did in mat 24,and mat 25,and don't bother with rev14. Then you can do something creative with acts1 and rev 14, make sure you omit the 2 escape verses,and pretrind noah and lot were delivered POST FLOOD,AND POST FIRE. you will be fine. (in your little...

You know, I asked you a question twice, and you went into some deal" you mean you need some verses changed...." You did not even engage ANYTHING, ..and then you get silly insane in telling me "you keep side-stepping and this game of yours is going on too long because you just ignore the...

Maybe take one verse. Because the pretrib rapture doctrine is vast. Certain components need to stay in the bible. We need romans 11 unmolested. We need the 144k unmolested We need the AC killing all refusing the mark intact And others. Give me one of your power points ( for example; the...

I 100% agree with the fact we are PROMISED trib. But if you can not differentiate between what we see in daily life and what happens at the 4 horsemen riders,then join SI in the amil doctrine. They definately have no clue on the difference. Establishing the difference between the trib we...

You had it right the first time. Nobody but the righteous taken preflood Nobody but the righteous taken preSodom. Nobody but the righteous taken when Jesus was taken to Egypt.

Postrib rapture. No verses to support it.

Where are people "tares" burned? You trying to say the rapture is after the mil at the GWTJ? You are unaware that the tares and wheat are harvested together then separated? Jesus even tells you that angels gather OUT OF HIS KINGDOM. That is THE MILLENNIUM.

Luke 3 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Postrib doctrine has mat 13 as a talking point. That point is that the wicked are ALWAYS GATHERED FIRST. The verse in Luke...

Is there a verse pointing to a postrib rapture? Chapter and verse?

Luke 3 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Looks like the "tares gathered first" doctrine is poorly thought out. We are told " he ALWAYS gathers the tares first" Nope...

In ALL THAT you need the setting given by Jesus removed. Your doctrine has the setting REVERSED from Jesus setting.

The analogy Jesus made is historical fact mixed with rapture pretrib ingredients. Those ingredients are my focus , as was Jesus focus. You can reframe it. But those ingredients are still there. Note the " before the flood" ingredient. Note the "half taken" ingredients. Note the normal life...

You are attempting to reason with amil doctrine. That is a completely different bible than yours.

Good Point, yes, everyone who refuses to mark dies in the great tribulation, as is depicted. You're making a case for the pre-tribulation rapture. As you pointed out, there's no believers that make it through the tribulation. Jesus declared it so vividly.

Who are those 50% taken? Why pretrib?

So in your "fact" of your doctrine, you are theorizing that Before the trib, ( as Jesus says, normal life, activities, commerce, marriage,) that half of a group are killed? Who are they, these pretrib taken ones? Why are they taken years ahead of the trib ending ( pretrib)?

So in your doctrine, you are theorizing that Before the trib, ( as Jesus says, normal life, activities, commerce, marriage,) that half of a group are killed? Who are they, these pretrib taken ones? Why are they taken years ahead of the trib ending ( pretrib)?