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The "uttermost part of the earth" is earth's atmosphere. ( the reason it is "heaven" and "angels" is because it is angels , not Jesus, gathering saints , FROM HEAVEN, to the white horses in Rev 19. But even if you use "earth" as your point, there are 2 "heaven" references to your one pinpoint...

Kind of funny how postribbers resort to extra biblical authors to try to find some desperate smoking gun against us. When in fact, it is they that point to dead men of the early church that they claim have the correct perspective because they were the first church. The catholics make the same...

Those left behind ones are the wheat harvest....as I have already pointed out. The rapture is tge barley. The wheat processed through a "tribulum"...(tribulation.) Fits like a glove. No need to insert a delay at the rapture that is NOT there.

I post verses. You deflect and omit, then bizarrely point to Hal Lindsay. Nothing new. Carry on

The 7 yr trib is Jacobs trouble. That is what we read. I led you to Daniel. You skipped it apparently.

Red flags. Only you are guided by the Holy Spirit. Nope . God NEVER WORKS THAT WAY.

It is a no braimer that the spirits of those dead in Christ enter their dead bodies AT THEIR RESURRECTION. NO BRAINER. The rapture is the gathering of the bride. We KNOW via Jesus declaration, which is eternally cannonized, that roughly half the church is left behind. Those saints are MARTYRED...

Yes you need it to be so. As you are demonstrating. Yes they are harvested one before the other. That fact is not in any way some green light to change the verse You changed it big time.

Of course those remaining survive something. Just as you have. Just as every person not in the gt has and is surviving. Why do folks need to torture verses??

Except we KNOW at the rapture it is normal life, everyday life, everyday activities and commerce. Who are those killed by the AC....for NOT TAKING THE MARK? MILLIONS AND MILLIONS KILLED. POSSIBY A BILLION. In fact, it says power wad given the AC to overcome the saints. It SAYS Every man woman...

Yes literally REMAIN....exactly like it says. Caught up exactly like it says. Meeting those resurrected 3 minutes ago in the air...exactly like it says. No reason to make it says something else Unless you torture it into a fitment of something you need it to say

Who is teaching this delay of the living in 1 thess 4 Who is teaching this??? What website????

Show me martyrs in Rev 14. Those singing in Rev 15 are martyrs. Please re read it.

QUOTE "Problem is Acts 1 is not a rapture. Acts 1 is Jesus returning to the earth to set up His kingdom after Armageddon." ...which is totally opposite of what the angels declare. Completely opposite. You really do not understand the meaning of " like manner"? Huh???????

You have 2 rapture BEFORE Rev 14. You made up th 50 day delay not depicted in 1 thes 4.

QUOTE "Ok. Your barley and wheat are harvested at the same time" Nope never said or believed it.

QUOTE "Totally incorrect. Acts 1 is talking about when Jesus sets His feet on the mount of Olives. That is not the rapture." Acts one says "like manner" "Like manner" Maybe look a little closer????? You need to understand "manner" You reframed it to " location" Totally in error. Why? Why...

No Both feasts correlate totally and completely. They both speak for themselves. I00% agree with all aspects of them and the relationship to end times Wheat comes AFTER BARLEY. Via tribulum...those left behind NO BRAINER. Those left behind COME IN VIA MARTYRDOM LATER. WHEAT AND BARLEY in...

What misunderstanding you have. Now you need to understand what gets pulled out of the grave. Hello...those dead saints have SPIRITS in heaven CURRENTLY. THOSE SPIRITS HAVE TO BE JOINED TO THE NEW BODIES THAT WERE ROTTED IN THE GRAVE. THOSE SPIRITS .....AHEM.....THAT COME INTO THOSE NEW BODIES...

"They sing the song of Moses. They are Jews" You then have to assume no non Jewish believers were martyred. I guess we need to stop singing Rev 15 at our church. Naaaah You made it up.