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The timing fits perfectly.

Davy noted: <That idea is from the pre trib rapture doctors> That idea is from the Bible: "For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the arcangel, and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be...

<last day of this world> <Jesus reigns 1000 years> So after this world sees its last day, Jesus rules it for 1000 years. Could be a time warp? More likely Jesus reigns this world from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Then after that come new heavens and earth (Revelation, chapters 21, 22)...

IMO: o. 3.5 years tribulation +3.5 years great tribulation = seven 360-day years o. Rapture is *between the two,* at the seventh trump.

IMO: o. The seven trumpets signal an announcement. The trumpet is traditionally blown on the feast of Trumpets, which is one of the fall festivals of God. It is a harvest fest (fall fruit harvest). The plan of God is thus poetically laid out as feasts of God. These seven trumpets announce a...

Davy noted: <after the tribulation> There has always been tribulation (John 16:33). The rapture occurs before the great tribulation (Revelation 14:14-16). It's in the Book.

Davy noted: o. Jesus does not take believers at the midpoint o. taken = taken by the false Messiah How does that fit with "meeting the Lord in the air? (1Thessalonians 4:14-18)

David Lamb asked: <wrath> He is called anti-Christ. Those who decline to worship him as God are punished. That is when the Jews flee to Petra. οργη = "wrath" (Matthew 3:7) after that, tribulation = after that wrath "Tribulation" θλιψις pressure, oppression, affliction (Oxford Greek...

David Lamb noted: "no mention of wrath." o. "Tribulation" (Revelation 7:14 ) indicates wrath. o. These are the "wrath" (Greek οργη) of God (Revelation 6:17) o. They culminate in the return of Jesus (Revelation 19:11-21). "Angels gather" from the "land," (Greek γη, Mark 13:27), presumably...

Davy noted: God is against pre-tribulation rapture. Then why does Jesus take up believers at the *midpoint* of the "seven?" o. Revelation 14:14-20 o. 1Thessalonians 4:15-17

There are seven seal judgments, seven trumpet judgments, seven bowl judgments. The last trump is the seventh trump. This is the plan of God, not the plan of apostles John or Paul.

The world around us is incredibly complex. The idea that it "evolved" IMO is nonsense.

Jesus is God. He *reaps* believers to the sky (1Thessalonians 4:16-17), so they may avoid the coming judgment in the Middle East. After the wrath angels *gather* elect Jews to Israel, God's city for them (Mark 13:27).

IMO the rapture occurs at the seventh trump ("last" of seven trumps). See 1Corinthians 15:51-53, Revelation 11:15).

Mark 6:3 (brothers and sisters)

IMO: The phrase in 2Corinthians 5:10 is Greek αγσθον ειτε φαυλον. In this phrase: o. αγαθον= "good" o. ειτε = or o. φαυλον = "ordinary/expected/acceptable" Hence "good or acceptable." No punishment for believers, Jesus paid the debt (2Corinthians 5:10).

o. "Sons of God" (Job 38:7) = beings in heaven created by God. o. These are angels and cherubim. o. Our universe was created after they were created. o. Plants and animals on our planet were created first. o. Plants have a body. o. Animals were created next. o. Animals have a body and a...

o. Sons of God = beings, intelligent and created by God. o. Those intelligent in heaven are angels and cherubim. o. They shouted for joy when our universe was created (Job 38 :7 ) o. Those on earth are people. o. "Earth" stems from Middle English erthe = "ground, soil." Davy noted: <abode of...

<Ask any practicing Jew> IMO: The seven Jewish festivals point to seven acts of the Messiah: o Passover - Slain as a lamb o Unleavened bread - He had done no violence (leaven is a symbol of sin) o Pentecost - Sends the Spirit o Day of Trumpets - Comes with clouds of heaven o Day of Atonement -...