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If you do not/ can not see God's wrath as described in Romans 1 as consequence then you do not see it. If you do not/ can not see 'God's justice' as forgiveness/ liberation then you do see 'justice' as payback contrary to your statement. As an aside, here is something else to...

Man's definition of justice is payback God's definition of justice is liberation from oppression, iow forgiveness. God's wrath is to be understood as Paul aptly defines it in Romans 1. If one chooses the definition of justice to mean payback, one either consciously or unconsciously chooses...

It's an identical idea, iow, the same thing. I'd say the Devil does, not God. The Devil makes it appear that God requires it. God no more requires life of a person than you do the life of your child when they are recalcitrant. Do we resort to OT texts when they suit our theology of blood lust...

Blood represents life. Jesus gave his life; it was not taken from him by anyone (John 10:18) The idea that God requires blood for payment is Pagan in origin. This Pagan idea of an angry God has been appropriated by the Church and in so doing has joined with the pagan idea that God requires...

An illustration: Train your mind and understanding in learning and recognising truth and more will be available to you. Train your mind and understanding in misrepresentation, subterfuge and deviousness and any truth that one thinks one holds will evaporate like dew to the rising sun. Its final...

Love is vulnerable. Vulnerable to exploitation. Loving does not mean one gets their own way every time. God has been misrepresented....from the outset by Lucifer. Lucifer has pushed and pushed and pushed with the angels, with mankind till eventually killing Jesus by the hands of wicked men...

Jesus' primary purpose is to reveal the REAL character of God,..... then and now. It is God's character which has been maligned from the very beginning, from Lucifer onwards, specifically in every religion of the World. The prophets railed against Israel's misrepresentation of God. Jesus shot...

Gods will is not always done. God does not desire the mayhem prevalent on this planet. God does not desire the murderous and exploitive designs of men. God's will however, will be done in the Earth made new as described in the later chapters of the book of Revelation. It is what Jesus taught us...

Self awareness and self focus have different objectives. Self awareness realises that one's 'morality' is wanting. Self focus makes certain ego is flattered under the guise of piety.

It is assumed that God is angry with sinners. This is not true. God went looking for A&E in their shame; he came bearing gifts not punishment. The death of Jesus (murdered by men) showed us that God would rather die than kill. He gave his life, it wasn't taken from him. God forgives. He does not...

Lizbeth, It depends through which paradigm one understands these texts. If one understands them independently of the God revealed in Jesus one will draw the conclusion that proactive punishment is in the tubes for certain ones...even the worst form of punishment. If it is understood through the...

Jack, c'mon man, your above reply makes it unambiguous, you don't understand. I'm reminded of Jesus' words, 'He who has will be given more and he who doesn't have will have taken away even that which he thinks he has'. It tells me that those who are deliberately ignorant will become more ignorant.

Forgiveness of sins patently visible for any who care to avail themselves.

The image of the beast is being 'formed' as we speak and those bowing down have no idea what's happening. They aren't even conscious that they are 'bowing down'. My guess is you don't understand what I am saying, Jack......and do you wonder why that is?

PTSD is the hell of living with the consequences of one's choices/ actions. Suffering is inbuilt in sin....though others don't necessarily see it. Yes, hell is real but it's not the mythical unending flames and pitchfork often understood as such. It is sinners who want to see others suffer for...

What greater strong delusion is there when God is tarred with the attributes and character of the devil and it is believed? I'm thinking of the teaching that God will burn people for eternity in unremitting flames. Imagine that! Many humans are kinder than that

The messages to the seven Churches in Revelation two and three(which incidentally I also see as representative of all of The Church throughout time) has admonition and encouragement for them all. The Laodicean Church it appears has gone off the tracks big time. I see it in large measure of...

I think the falling away has been in progress for some time. It has been a falling away and an entrenching in a faulty understanding of the character of God. The devil has tarred God with his own characteristics which is embraced and defended with gusto by most.....while faith is measured by how...

Tut, tu, tut. Is stating the obvious in these matters doing anything for one's ego?

Where Cain got his wife Walmart, where else!