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@Earburner Yep all the time This is not accurate Jn 3:18 doesnt say anything about predestination, also the vessels of mercy Rom 9 were always predestined to glory Rom 9:23 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

@Earburner This is truth whether you realize it or not. God actually created two groups of people purposely, #1 The vessels of Mercy who were designed in His Eternal Purpose to be recipients of His Mercy, even from everlasting to everlasting Ps 103:17 17 But the mercy of the Lord is from...

Point 4 When Christ, as a surety, engaged for the elect, they were Justified. "At the same time in which Christ became a surety for us, and our sins were imputed to him, we were absolved from guilt, and reputed just; that is, actively justified:" Which was from everlasting, or before the...

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Point # 3 Eph 1:3-4 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love...

@1stCenturyLady False, it doesnt show that, its the whole Body of Christ, His Church. Your statement would equate to only a small portion of Christs Mystical Body were predestined, and not the whole, that only part of His Bride was predestined Eph 5:30-32 30 For we are members of his body, of...

Point 2 2. The elect were by God considered and viewed in Christ from everlasting; which is excellently expressed by Dr. Thomas Goodwin in these words: "Look, as God did not, in his decrees about creation, consider the body of Adam singly and apart from his soul, nor yet the soul without the...

I have some points derived from scripture Truth, why all those Christ died for are Justified from Eternity, from their sin in adam and consequently all sin following. I have listed six reasons, and I am indebted to God through one John Brine from his treatise on Eternal Justification. Point #1...

Continuing with Justification from Everlasting ! As we should consider the Gospel Truth of Eternal Justification, we Look at Eph 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: For it cannot be...

Chosen for Salvation its all whom God chose in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: And these will hear the Gospel of thir Salvation and believe...

Do you care to discuss Justification from everlasting or not

In the Mind of God ! The religious people of our time have shown profound irreverence to God, as though, when something in the Mind of God means nothing to them, as though what's in His Mind as True cannot be True unless its true in the minds of his creatures, reducing God to their levels...

Eternally Justified in God's Purpose ! Everyone who is truly believing in the Son of God for their Salvation Jn 3:16, for the word believing there is in the present tense hence "whosoever is believing" was eternally Justified in the Purpose of God by the Grace of God Rom 8:30; 2 Tim 1:9 Rom...

@Davy You just throw in anything. This thread is about Justification from everlasting. Thats where I been studying.

All believers are in Christ, chosen in Him b4 the foundation Eph 1:3-13 if they believe the Gospel of their Salvation Eph 1:13 its because they were chosen in Christ Eph 1:4

@Davy False its all believers in Christ Eph 1:4-13

@Doug Yes with no social and ethnic differences Gal 3:28-29 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Jn...

The Body of Christ and the elect remnant of Israel are One People, the Spiritual Seed of Abraham that belong to the Body of Christ Gal 3:29 29 And if ye be Christ's,[Body] then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.