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Being Justified freely by His Grace ! Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: This Grace whereby those whom Christ died for, and by which they are Justified before God, was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim 1:9...

Just dont worry about it, this has ended because you going around the world to avoid a simple yes or no question.

Were they always Justified b4 God even b4 they are born again and believe ? Yes or no please

Because you not reading what I already posted

Why dont you read the thread comments.

okay, I see you dont understand it, you are unenlightened

okay, so them who are born of God, were always Justified before God even b4 they were born of God ? Is that what you believe ?

No it wasnt obvious to me. Do you believe its true ?

Do you understand Justification from everlasting ?

An Everlasting Salvation ! Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. Israel here is merely All of God's Elect, Chosen In Christ [Israel] before the foundation ! When is an Elect Person, Chosen in...

Slain from the foundation ! That God had made a Judicial decision not to punish the elect for their sins [Justification] but to impute them unto Christ, in order that He may bear the Justice of them, is seen from the words we read "slain from the foundation " Rev 13:8 8 And all that dwell upon...

Lambs book of Life ! In line with this truth of Justification from everlasting, I believe that the Justified had their names written in the Lambs book of life at the same date that God purposed that their sins would be sentenced upon Christ, and that He must die their death, and for them to...

Is it just a decree to Justify ? Some who call themselves believers and upholding the Faith of Christ, so understand Justification as a decree to Justify, meaning they believe God will Justify a sinner in the future, but until such time they are born again and brought to act in faith or...

May God be pleased to deliver you from the deception of justification by your works, action, and not by the sole action of Christ alone.

You still requiring man to do something. Thats works

Justification is not the act of man, nor is it contingent upon his knowledge of it, but it is solely the act of God the Judge, and is valid from the date that Judge decided the case. God decided on the case of His own Elect before the world began, and Chose them in Christ Eph 1:4;2 Tim 1:9, and...

I know that. However you mentioned your act or receiving is necessary for salvation. Here it is: Is personally receiving Christ your act or not ?

@Lizbeth I gotcha, but holding that view of yours to me is conditioning salvation on works, on the doing of man, sorry

@Lizbeth Okay, so whenever He had them laid to Hs Charge, they could not be charged to the elect at the same time. Even if He had not yet died for them, they were still laid on His Credit card account and not theirs, meaning God looked for Him alone to satisfy their debt and not them, so they...

Justification is a external act of God [upon the sinner] as a Judge, acting in a Court of Justice on guilty sinners, and not the internal work of the Spirit on the heart as in 2 Thess 2:13. God is acting upon the principal of Justice,according to His Law, He Justifies the Ungodly, and those be...