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ALL religious extremist cults are exclusive in nature. You would make God a cult leader.....which He is not. God is merciful....you are not. You misrepresent God to be as small and shallow minded as you are...because you have invented a Jesus of make-believe. A fable, a fairy tale as Paul says...

This is as false as can be. A person is ONLY be credited with righteousness by what they DO. Again, you are confusing righteousness with holiness. In holiness a man is COVERED by an anointing of God's righteousness by the empowering by the Spirit. As such righteousness is a gift of God.....but...

Evangelicals are taught to trust in their own salvation thinking that is the same as faith in God. But it is directly opposed to a true faith in God. Beliefs and faith are opposed to each other. They are on an entirely different plane...or level. Beliefs come from the flesh and are self-seeking...

Most people here know nothing of the things of God beyond having a religious opinion based on a faulty reading of the bible. And they have learned their twisted views from others who were twisted before them. An evangelical is TRYING to be saved by ACCEPTING a religious proposition....and then...

A few glaring errors here. You start out with a good logic. Spiritual attainment is not by human means. I think we all agree on that. But then you turn the argument against obedience as if that was the same as trying to be perfected spiritually by some other means rather than...what WE do in...

IOW don't push righteousness in the face of holiness. Big mistake.

How can people become twice dead who were never given life for the second time?

And I don't love it when people expect others to have as much love for their fleshly concerns as they do.

All these verses speak precious things. But do you think they are yours by believing they are yours? Where is the reality in your claiming? Shouldn't you rather be claiming you are poor naked wretched and blind? But of course someone who is that way wouldn't know it.

I think you are assuming that sealing means you have hit the eternal jackpot whereas it means you will be dealt with personally by the Lord. It is a fearful thing to come under the intense scrutiny of God.

We can't force people to have faith.

This is a HUGE miscalculation. Turning from sin does not make you holy. Turning from being a slave of sin to become a slave of righteousness....has nothing to do with holiness. You have to read the text without adding in your indoctrination and opinions..IF you don't want to be seen as aberrant...

It sounds like the same gospel...but the decoy gospel has no power. They get their strength from the lip service of other carnal believers who band together to fight against the cross. They are enemies of the cross because they resist obedience to Christ in favour of beliefs ABOUT Jesus that...

It's not just that they want to stay on milk it's that there is an rebellious uprising in the nursery. Like we are seeing in France with the protests. It's the champions of the flesh that hate the cross. They want to justify themselves with an initial grace...and they bury their talent in...

This is misleading. We mainly lack faith. That's not an accomplishment.

Why are you so against obedience to Christ? You want religious hypocrisy but not obedience. WHY????? You have to realize that you have been deceived. Again I talk about obedience and you either ignore me or else say it's more important to have a religious opinion. Opinions don't save anyone...

You have fully missed the process of salvation...thinking an initial grace is enough. You are burying your talent. Go to God and buy the full measure of grace...and walk as Jesus walked.

The problem with the kind of religious superficiality you are constantly spewing out...is that believing ON Jesus is not enough...one must believe INTO Jesus...to be where He is to have victory over sin and walk in holiness. Believing ON Christ is a beginning..but the person remains carnal...

You are reading only what you want to see. I said that even those who are born in Zion will mainly fail. They get seduced by the devil into following their own self interest...as in...I'm a king's kid now...nothing but gravy and glory. Basically they think...I cannot be deceived by the devil...

All I ever see is people trying to take a nuanced multi-layered truth and turn it into a one size fits all explanation that is only half true. 1. At conversion we go from being slaves of sin to slaves of righteousness (not holiness). So then outward sins and the love of that goes away...the...