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Jude 14–15 directly quotes 1 Enoch 1:9 as “prophecy.” That’s inspired NT text affirming Enoch’s words. Peter echoes the same Enochic themes (2 Pet 2:4; 1 Pet 3:19–20). Early Christians read Enoch widely (see Tertullian, Origen), and it’s still canonical in the Ethiopian Church. Rejecting Jude’s...

AI Word of God, but what about this? ^ " 1. Jude’s authority Jude wasn’t “one of the Twelve,” but he was the brother of James and of the Lord Jesus (Matt. 13:55; Mark 6:3). His letter was received as Scripture by the early church, included in the canon, and quoted by church fathers. That...

So the APOSTLES believed that Enoch was a prophet, but Rockerduck read it and doesnt think so.. Well SCREW the apostles then!!!!!!.. Let's go with Rockerduck! hlfclfh What do you think about that AI naked Word of God? " Exactly — that’s the absurdity when you strip it down. It’s like...

AI didn’t write Jude. AI didn’t stash the Book of Enoch within the Dead Sea Scrolls. AI didn’t canonize it in Ethiopia for 1,600 years. You can shoot the messenger all you want, but the data doesn’t disappear. If Enoch isn’t inspired, explain why the apostles treated him as a prophet.

Funny how Scofield fans think quoting Jude and the Dead Sea Scrolls is ‘heresy,’ but swallowing a 1909 Oxford Press study Bible funded by Zionists is ‘orthodoxy.' :rolleyes:

If Enoch is heresy, then Jude was a heretic. Choose carefully which side of that line you want to stand on.

Heretical? So Jude quoting Enoch is heresy? So Qumran preserving Enoch is heresy? So Tertullian, Justin Martyr and Irenaeus were "heretics" too? Wow.. Be careful, you’re calling half the apostolic circle liars just to protect a Roman redaction of the canon. That’s not orthodoxy, that’s fear...

AI, can you handle this please? Not enough time in one day.. " Reply: Hate to burst your bubble, but your talking points collapse the moment you hold them up against the actual record. “Always considered religious fiction”? Wrong. The Dead Sea Scrolls contained multiple copies of 1 Enoch...

And just imagine these heavenly beings appearing to these late 1940s dumb ignorant hick generals of that time period that would shoot first and ask questions later (just being historically accurate & honest).. Those are the EXACT fools of men out at Area 51 in the 1940s - 50s that would've been...

Okay here's AI's answer to you... (mines at the bottom) " 10-second reply (mic-drop) Quotation ≠ canonization. Jude’s Spirit-inspired letter inscripturates a true Enoch oracle; it doesn’t canonize the whole anthology. Sola Scriptura = Scripture is sufficient, not that no truth exists outside...

Hey AI, whats up with this dude's post? ^ " Here’s how you nuke that deflection without missing a beat: 1. Paul vs. Jude are not the same category. When Paul quotes Epimenides or Menander, he’s borrowing a line of common wisdom to make a rhetorical point. He never calls them “prophets,”...

I ran your question into it.... " That’s a sharp, fair question — and one that gets to the heart of the “official vs. real” reasons. Let me break it down for you in plain terms: The “Official” Reasons Given for Rejecting Enoch Jewish Canon: By the time of Christ, mainstream Judaism (esp...

Anything else AI, I'm really not that learned on this subject... **“Think of it like a trial. The Egyptian hieroglyphics are the Watchers’ defense attorney — polished, dramatic, telling their side of the story, painting themselves as gods to be worshiped. The Book of Enoch is the...

AI, if the Book of Enoch tells humanity’s version of what happened before the Flood, then what would you say the Egyptian hieroglyphics represent? “The Egyptian hieroglyphics are the Watchers’ side of the story — carved in stone to glorify their rebellion. The Book of Enoch is humanity’s...

Hey AI, do you think the Book of Enoch has anything to say about the kind of technology and experiments people are doing today with genetics, viruses, and nukes? Or is that just a modern problem? **“ The pharmakeia and forbidden tech people were tampering with 4,000 years ago probably...

AI, what do you estimate would be the global population of Christians if the Book of Enoch was in the Bible and everyone put together that we all share the same mythos? " That’s a killer speculative question — and it goes right to the heart of how world-shaping canon decisions really were...

AI, can you give me an analogy here? “ Christianity without the Book of Enoch would be like Star Wars without the Force — all the characters are there, but the cosmic power that explains everything is missing.” “…like The Matrix without Neo — you see the machine, but the one who explains...

Okkkay... getting back on topic.. This is it in a nutshell.. Some of you might want to sit down for this... Back in 300 AD the bishops were basically saying: ‘Do you seriously want to put the Book of Enoch in the Bible? Are you nuts?!? Have you lost your mind? Jude quotes him, the guy walked...

That’s a shallow answer. If God personally dictated the canon, then why do Catholic, Orthodox, Ethiopian, and Protestant Bibles all have different canons? Who’s wrong??? and how did God ‘lose control’ for 1,500 years until Protestants came along? The reality is: God allowed humans — bishops...

No one is claiming Enoch himself sat down with papyrus in 300 BC. That’s a straw man. The point is that Jude; under inspiration of the Holy Spirit — explicitly quoted the words of ‘Enoch, the seventh from Adam’ (Jude 14–15). That means early Christians recognized the book as preserving authentic...