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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Was the king of Tyrus real? How was he "perfect" in his ways "from the day" he was "created" till "iniquity was found in" him (Ezekiel 28:15)? Was the king of Tyrus an "anointed cherub" (Ezekiel 28:14&16)? Was he at one time in the "Paradise of God" (Ezekiel 28:13)? Did he protect "the holy...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The objective Bible student will see that the king of Tyrus and the king of Babylon were simply tools of Satan - thus the wording. It is that simple.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    I asked: "Do conservative Scholars typically Think Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 Are Talking of Satan?" Just changing "biblical" to conservative" changes the whole response. Your dependence on AI exposes the impotence of your argument and your inability to address a basic refutation of your error...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The word “kingdom” means king with a domain. You do not have a king without a kingdom. You do not have a kingdom without a king (or queen). Basically, where you have the king, you have the kingdom, or, were you have the kingdom, you have the king. A kingdom includes the territory and the people...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    In my experience, when people here turn to AI for support they have lost the debate. PS: the majority of "scholars" out there are apostate today.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    If the Fall was the greatest tragedy that hit mankind, the cross was the greatest blessing. It confronted and overcame everything that was arrayed against us. Revelation 20 shows Christ gain an incredible victory over every enemy of righteousness: Justice demanded: · Christ had to defeat sin...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Not true. What is the issue. Psalms 79:10-11 declares, “Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is their God? let him be known among the heathen in our sight by the revenging of the blood of thy servants which is shed. Let the sighing of the prisoner come before thee; according to the greatness...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    In Revelation 20, we are looking at a vision about a dragon. Is this a literal dragon? Of course not. Satan is a spiritual being. It is a symbolic vision. The chain and key are also not literal and physical but symbolic. The dragon represents Satan. The angel is Christ. The chain represents...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    And who said Satan is still not bad?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Not true. He spiritual chained/bound the kingdom of darkness. With the coming of Christ to this earth came the introduction of His spiritual kingdom. With the introduction of His spiritual kingdom came a direct challenge to the power and influence of Satan on planet earth. With the direct...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    You did not answer my questions: Are the wicked in a physical prison? Are the wicked bound by metal chains?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I agree. That's what Jesus did 2000 years ago. That is the power he delegated to the Church in this new covenant.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    You also have a dragon. I can assure you that Christ did not put a literal physical dragon into a literal brick prison. Remember, the devil is a spirit. You cannot contain spirits in physical prisons. This is clear figurative language.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Are the wicked in a physical prison? Are the wicked bound by metal chains?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    It is a spiritual place of restraint. Are the wicked in a physical prison? Are the wicked bound by metal chains?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I never dodged anything. Check #536. It is you who is dodging. He was talking about and describing the natural physical order/creation. Hello! He had already created the angelic realm before that.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    When Christ bound Satan’s kingdom through His life, death and resurrection then all were bound. 2 Peter 2:4, Jude v 6, Revelation 9 and Revelation 20 all prove the whole demonic realm has been restrained from stopping the free-flow of the Gospel. The bruising of the head of the beast (Revelation...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Where have I quoted "the books of Enoch" on this thread? Where have I based my argument in anything other than Holy Writ? Never. That is another straw-man to justify your lack of Scripture and your perpetual avoidance. This is all noise - all private interpretation. Zero addressing of the...