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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    So are you admitting that you don’t talk about the burial of the old covenant then? Or is it that you can’t defend the Amil position when that string is plucked?
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    I’m interested in talking about what the Bible says. If a passage is referring to the burial of the old covenant then I want to acknowledge that. Many people simply will refer to that burial as 70AD because that is the date it happened. I can compare your thoughts about preterist being obsessed...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    I have barely mentioned 70AD in this thread yet anytime that date is mentioned, all you want to do is divert the conversation back to the cross. I agree that the cross is of utmost importance but you seem to be obsessed with diverting and dismissing any discussion about 70AD. I’m surprised the...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    Ah, so you do have to admit there was a burial date! Are you obsessed with Titus and 70AD? Because if anyone else even mentions 70AD that’s your go to defense.
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    And this is always your only argument against preterist concerning this. I didn’t say the old covenant remained valid after the cross, only that it hadn’t vanished. You have to argue that I somehow think the old covenant was still in force in order to make a straw man argument. How about...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    No, your obsession with claiming the old covenant vanished at the cross is blinding you to the truth.
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    It means everyone who is local will see Him, Hello. His ascension was local, lightning is local, and what happened in 70AD was local. Every local eye sees the local events.
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    When He ascended in Acts1:9 was it seen locally or globally? He will return in like manner.
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    Hey, I’m not the one who said His coming is like lightning, He Himself used that term. Are you exaggerating what God has said? How do you know it’s not natural lightning that is being referenced? Are you denying there was a coming in judgment in the first century? God can do anything He wants...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    I came across a formula that shows that under perfect conditions theoretically a person could observe lightning from a maximum distance of approximately 273 miles (440 kilometers) away. Here’s the formula … D = (2RH + H2 – 2Rh – h2)1/2 D is the maximum distance that lightning can be observed...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    In Revelation 22:18 we see the promise that God will add the plagues that are written in this book to anyone who adds to the things (in this book). Revelation 15:1 tells us the seven angels have the seven last plagues, then Revelation 16 describes these last plagues as bowls being poured out...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    Ok, what about 2 Peter 3:10? 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Does this happen at...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    I’m not really asking a question, I’m just pointing out that you have the rapture taking place like a thief in the night. It’s completely unknown when that event will happen (except by the Father). At the second coming you have it as a known date, meaning that date is known after the covenant...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    Ok, so let me get this straight, the rapture (for believers only) can happen at any moment and nobody knows when, while the final coming (to deal with unbelievers) is known down to the very day it’s going to happen. I thought He came as a thief to the unbelievers but you have Him coming as a...
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    Well, then once the 7 year covenant gets signed everybody will know the day of His coming because it would be exactly 7 years to the day after the covenant gets signed.
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    Death will be no more, due to no more births.

    2 Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man...
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    Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

    Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. What are your thoughts on the land being married? You said “the New...
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    Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

    In Revelation 22:2 it’s called the tree of life, in Genesis 2:9 we also see the tree of life. In Genesis 3:22-24 Adam and Eve are kicked out of the garden lest they eat of the tree of life. Since you see Revelation 22:2 leaves being used for healing as in past tense, when did humanity get...
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    Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

    Ok, so I agree with most of what you’re saying. Here’s the thing that gets me though, I definitely think we are in NHNE and when people argue that NHNE only takes place in the future it makes me question their understanding of salvation itself. In Hebrews 12:22 we have come to the heavenly...
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    Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

    In Ezekiel 47:10 it says fishermen are going to be on the shore and there’s going to be all kinds of fish to catch. In Matthew 4:19 Jesus says come follow Me and I will make you fishers of men. Aren’t we currently fishers of men or does that only apply to the New Heaven New Earth? If it only...