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The righteous fall (basically crash and burn) 7 times but they get back up again. Like that song called tub-thumping. :Thumbsup:

Maybe start a thread entitled "why I hate David. or "Why God got this one wrong"

A typical man drunk with power and with God's favour. What do they say about both power and favour? Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And favour (grace) is deceitful. People aren't usually that exposed until they run onto the truth.

We need to lower the estrogen levels here. You are not quoting what I said...you are reading it with a propensity for drama. Did I mention that the churches are WAY too feminized today? Women don't know their place anymore. (That should get the estrogen going) :hmhehm

Just because David didn't show up with flowers and chocolates doesn't mean that he wasn't able to put his sinful ways behind him. Less drama, more content. Ma'am.:tiphat:

Let's dare to compare 2 verses from Paul that are saying the same thing but on 2 different levels. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. Rom. 8:2 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus...

Do you ever read Paul or about Paul in the bible without thinking that he was a murderer? There were some in his day that never forgave him...never trusted him. Now the opposite is true...elevating his words (erroneously as it turns out) above those of Jesus.

I think women in general don't understand men, and that a man can be more than one thing at the same time. All God has to do is to cut off that other"thing" and you have a better man. I think men have a better grasp of what it means to be circumcised whereby that other thing is cut off. The...

You are literally being too kind here. You actually spoke the truth but with a force that you weren't accustomed to. Discernment is good. Rebuking pride is good. There is a time for this IF you want the truth to have dominion over the many lies being propagated in the churches of today. I hope...

A lot of the errors we see in theology and doctrine today stem from a lack of understanding of what motivated Paul to write his letters. Paul's concern was 2 fold...and many of his sayings reflect the 2 levels that I will describe by comparing like verses with like verses in order to rightly...

You have to see God's mercy for purpose...a purpose that goes beyond just arbitrarily saving someone because of some shallow reason. No, David was a deeply devoted man who loved God...but got mixed up in what he considered to be things of "lesser" importance. So in David's pursuit of a holy...

David was willing to go where God wanted to take him.

You are not reading Paul correctly...and twisting the verse as Peter warns. There is no differentiation between holiness laws and righteousness laws in the Mosaic law. There were 2 tablets given to Moses...and the ordinances he came up with were for national Israel...as a people. The law that...

Please go...you are a troll here. And there are other threads that you can get your ego edified in. May I suggest...the "happy thread". If you leave the carnality level here will drop. But you won't know that. Start your own thread...encourage each other in whatever theological scheme is the...

I'm sorry that people can not tolerate sound doctrine. And that the carnal mind is so hostile to anything regarding either holiness or righteousness. The devil sure knows how to do his job. I'm so sorry for the fighting here...but most of these people will never hear the truth away from what I'm...

Your verse doesn't back up your claim. The deeds of the law are the temple holiness laws that made a person a Jew...circumcision and such. You don't know what either righteousness or holiness is. All you have is an indoctrination into an UNLEARNED religious ideology that a LITTLE bit of study...

I knew that his comments were artificial...I just thought they were religiously so. A fake religious ideology lends itself well to copy paste.

You show your ignorance of God's ways. I never said that obedience purchases grace. Grace is a free gift given through faith. You THINK you know what that means but you don't. You only know what you think you know by reading a bible without the depth of understanding it takes to not either...

OK because you sound like you are sober here...I will respond to this post because it sounds intelligible. You put all emphasis on beliefs...that God or the bible does not. The demons also believe in Jesus...so you may have some company there. That's not what faith in Christ is built on. Jesus...

What the purpose of grace is NOT for is for people to justify themselves based on their beliefs. Romans 4:1-8 KJV 1) What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2)...