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the point is, what other believers back up your doctrine? Federalism? Dodging a simple question, is the low ground ma'am. As if you have no basis, or you are the only one with you special revelation.

Ok, what camp or teacher is teaching this same theology you have? IOW, point me to a YouTube vid that has "belief only after salvation" and "Adam as the federalist of mankind"

exactly. I have challenged all on the forum to post a post trib RAPTURE verse and nobody has. All rapture verses are normal life, peacetime, and buying /selling going on. That alone discredits any hope of some to "go through the trib" then the fact that all take the mark or die, pretty much...

Yes i am not postribber as their are no verses to back up that false doctrine The rapture is pretrib Those left behind are martyred by being beheaded. They are the innumerable number in heaven right away when the trib begins. It says they washed their robes. They are carnal christians. Following...

all followers of Jesus are beheaded early on in the gt. They are the innumerable number in heaven, and the foolish virgins that miss the rapture train. 2 requirements to make it in the rapture. 1 born again 2 worthy or "extra oil". God is a God of love, judgements and rewards.

The elephant in the room is "first fruits" . Anytime you see those words it is DIRECTLY connected to harvest. If that is left out then the main component is skipped. There are several " comings" declared in the bible. No way around it. He comes for his gentile bride. That is mat 25 and the book...

Except the context of the 2 witnesses conflicts with your theory

All take the mark or die. There are no saints going through the gt. Nobody to rapture post gt.

Rev 13 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

It says every man woman and child takes the mark. You either take it or get martyred. You can not void it out with other verses or omit it if you study truly end times Pretrib rapture is the biblical position, and is as easy to defend as salvation is ,with a bible.

Nope It is postribbers that are CENTERED on one liners or cliche's. "Day of the lord" "After" "Darby" "Lahaye" "Lie of satan" "Never taught by early church" "Thief" 90 percent of their " doctrine" is extra biblical, And one liners, then when they do actually crack a bible, they OMIT AND REFRAME...

"Shaking my head"

You are mostly wrong. Your condemnation of pretribbers has you aligned DIRECTLY against Gods word. There are tons of "worthiness vs unworthiness" dynamics concerning believers in the bible. The crowns are going to those who are worthy. Those without a particular crown are in fact UNWORTHY of...

Sad to hear that lot was under your condemnation. He was so weak in your eyes. He should have stayed in Sodom instead of following the Lords deliverance. And the baby Jesus in such a false theory of escapism. He should have stayed, and not escaped to egypt, as your superior method would have...

Niv = not inspired version. At our men's bible study, that meets three times a week, we are in Ephesians currently most of the men have NIV Bibles. Only two of us have King James Version. I have three Greek Interlinear Bibles. Even before I learned it, I could tell King James was taken...

My savior is alive. Your center on the death is alarming You are hanging around the cross. Stuck at salvation. You are baptist, correct?

My savior is alive. Your center on the death is alarming.

That is part correct. It is the risen savior that does the heart change at conversion. He ain't on the cross anymore.

Mormons have many special revelations. It is imperative for believers to counsel with God and receive special revelations. Getting it wrong about the second coming is not high ground at all.

Nope You need "revelation". All your spiritual applications need to be backed up, in harmony with heaven, not your private assumptions.