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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    By definition wheat is not a tare and by definition tares are not wheat, but that didn’t stop you from claiming they can become each other. Now you are claiming the definition of immortal prevents it from ever becoming mortal. I hope you can at least see why people are going to be questioning...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Ok, so let’s go back and look at the tares and wheat. It’s impossible for a wheat plant to ever become a tare plant. Just like it’s impossible for something that is immortal to become mortal. But I can argue from man’s perspective it is possible for someone to loose immortality just like it’s...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Sure, I’ll admit I can’t make sense of your view, therefore I don’t know what you believe. No, I don’t deny that, but that has nothing to do with a parable that is written from God’s perspective, else the parable is not written from God’s perspective. Ok, everyone who is reading this post, I...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    You claim that often but all I can tell you is that is how I perceive it. So maybe try doing a better job of presenting your method of interpretation, like showing why the vice versa swapping only applies to certain parables. I mean, what are the rules you use when making a vice versa swap and...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    What’s so ridiculous about that argument? Is it that I used a presupposition that the millennium has to still be future to force an interpretation that agrees with that idea, or is it that I copied your method of interpretation that allows for vice versa swapping?
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    If I were a Premil I would simply use your hermeneutics and claim at the second coming the perishable/mortal is clothed with imperishable/immortal, they take the inheritance/kingdom, then the imperishable/immortal clothes are removed. I would claim clothes are something that can be put on and...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Ok, so how does the sequence of events happen with a future millennium? Do you see the dead in Christ rising first a separate event than the tares being gather and bundled first? I have a hard time believing the Amil view of having two firsts at the last day.
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Yes, I’ve already moved on from this world because I don’t know if I’ll have a heart attack in the next moment or not. So really a Christian is always ready but for some reason we are given similar instructions in Like 17:31 as those in Matthew 24 about fleeing when they see the AOD.
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Well, I would say it takes longer than a twinkling of an eye to consider whether I should or shouldn’t get my stuff when I get off the roof. In a twinkling of an eye would be like getting stuck by lightning, no time to even think about getting out of the way.
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    Can a tare become saved?

    In Luke 17:31 people who are on the roof are not supposed to come down and get their stuff, the same with the people in the field. It doesn’t seem like it happens in a blink of an eye if there is time for people to consider whether or not they should get their stuff, though. 1 Corinthians...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    In 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 the dead in Christ shall rise first then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up. In Matthew 13:30 both grow together until the harvest then the tares are gathered first and bundled then the wheat is gathered into the barn. In the parable of the tares the...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    I don’t think it really matters that much about who the servants were, most of the commentaries I looked at say the servants are elders or those in authority in the church. I did see one commentary that suggested it could be the angels but also thought they could be elders. The point I was...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Biblehub They were in the kingdom. I already explained that. The tares were people who continued to rely on the old covenant requirements for their sins. That is why we see them in the church up until 70AD, which was a harvest at the end of that age. They were treated with brotherly love as...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Are you serious? Matthew 13:30Let both grow together until the harvest: Is there something you don’t understand about that? The word “grow together” <4885> means to grow together, to increase together. Context: The Greek verb συναυξάνω appears in the New Testament to convey the idea of growth...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Well in Matthew 13:30 the servants are told that the reapers will gather at the harvest, then in vs 41 the angels are the ones gathering. It doesn’t seem likely that the servants are the reapers/angels by the way the parable is written.
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Well yea, if you don’t allow a brother or sister to increase their view while a tare is allowed to increase their view then that is how I perceive you. But now I see you are claiming you wouldn’t allow a tare to increase either, so I have to ask you this now, are you a servant or not? The...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    In the parable the servants are told to allow the tares and the wheat to both grow/increase. All I see is repeated attempts to thwart the views of others. That isn’t allowing other views to increase. If a Premil wants to make a post about how Satan isn’t bound you will argue against that view...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Here’s the thing, you constantly telling others why their view is incorrect and how they need to see the Amil view and not allowing a different view to grow, contradicts your interpretation of the parable which specifically says to allow tares to grow together. It’s kinda like a fat pastor...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    We know the old covenant didn’t just vanish after the cross because Hebrews 8:13 says it was ready to vanish at the time it was written. So we have to make sure we don’t contradict that verse. We know that James, Peter, and John were to go to the circumcision while Paul and Barnabas to the...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Acts 15:28For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye...