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John 10:14-16

I used to be prewrath. Then I realized that the fig tree has two harvests. That changes everything. Hosea 9 10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that...

The Word is clear enough. Jesus comes at the 6th seal. It is the second coming. He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. The Church is gathered from heaven and the 12 tribes across the earth are gathered from the earth. Those of Israel that fled to a place of protection...

Again, I cannot comprehend your line of thought. What you are saying to me is that you do not believe what is written. This is so simple that your line of reasoning just boggles my mind. John had a vision. John says when each seal is opened...............the event happens. Rev 6 And I saw...

They are elders, not angels. I don't believe that you understand what first fruits are. First fruits are harvested first and presented to the priest, or in this case Jesus. They are before the throne of God and are redeemed from the earth. Rev 14 3 And they sung as it were a new song before...

No, I do not understand your logic. Of course, the seals are prophecy of future events. When the seal is actually opened, the event will occur. It's simple. Could you explain what events I add to the 7th seal? I don't know of anything that I am adding.

Sorry, I cannot comprehend this logic as it is illogical. It is clear by the Word of God that when the 6th seal is opened, Jesus will return for a harvest, and it is the second harvest. This event is the second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord. However, ALL RETURN TO HEAVEN FOR...

And yet, when we understand that there are two raptures, it completely clears the muddy. There is a rapture after the great tribulation, which would be post trib. But who is raptured? Those raptured are singing the song of Moses. They are the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the...

I agree with the rest but the 12 tribes across the earth believe after their blindness is removed when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the rapture before the great tribulation.

The only way it is possible to draw this conclusion is to intentionally ignore common sense and scriptural FACT. For you to believe that there is only one rapture that happens after the tribulation means that you have to make the 6th seal the 7th seal. Completely illogical. You have to ignore...

If you put it all together, Jesus comes at the 6th seal for a harvest. The 144,000 from twelve tribes are the first fruits of this harvest. Therefore the harvest has to be of the 12 tribes. This is further proved by the FACT that they are singing the song of Moses in Revelation 15. Further, we...

How so? It's all over the Word of God.

No sir. Matthew 24:29-31 is the gathering from heaven and earth. Mark 13 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. The Church is gathered from heaven (as they are already...

The Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. Revelation 5 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And...

I am not sure why you are unable to see a harvest at the 6th seal. It does take a little deductive reasoning but it's a simple process. I'll try to lay it out for you. When the 6th seal is opened the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he...

Agreed. Which is why most have no clue there will be two raptures. Which is why many have no clue that there will be a rapture before the great tribulation, and it will be the Church.

The 144,000 from 12 tribes of Israel are first fruits of the second harvest. They are redeemed from the earth and are in heaven before the throne of God. Revelation 14. 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn...

I am not understanding what you are saying.

It appears that your word means nothing. You said you wanted your account deleted. Let me quote you. i don't debate, you win. i thought perhaps here would be different but I see it's no different than any other. I'm out, please delete my account, i'll keep looking for understanding...

Actually, that's what I know. Exactly. The kingdoms of this world become the of our Lord. That means Armageddon is over and Christ has set up His kingdom. Wrath is over. Wrath is over at the 7th trumpet. The 7 vials of wrath happen in the time frame as the trumpets which is the 7th seal. When...