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  1. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    You’re confusing covenant fulfillment with national favoritism. That’s your theology — not Paul’s. Romans 11 doesn’t say Israel stays separate forever — it says some were broken off in unbelief, and others were grafted in by faith. Paul’s entire argument is about one tree, not two. And no, the...
  2. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    So in other words, you still can’t refute what I actually said using Scripture. Got it. You’ve resorted to name-calling and pseudo-intellectual insults because you’ve run out of verses. Thanks for confirming that.
  3. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scofield had to make Christians buy into a pre-trib rapture to pull off the biggest theological con job in Church history—convincing them that the Body of Christ isn't Israel. That was the linchpin. If believers understood that they are the fulfillment of God's covenant—they are the seed of...
  4. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    Theologically refute my statement then. Using the Gospel, not your feelings.
  5. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Jesus Christ literally tells you word for word - “As in the days of Noah… they knew not until the flood came and took them all away. So shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.” Who got taken in the flood? The wicked. Who was left behind? Noah — the righteous. “As in the days of Noah… they...
  6. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scofieldism isn’t just error — it’s a direct contradiction of Jesus, Paul, and the early Church. Jesus returns once. The trumpet sounds once. The resurrection happens once. And if you miss it — there is no sequel. Is the rapture before the tribulation? No Not in the words of Jesus. Not in the...
  7. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    Maybe you haven't heard.. Anyone even acknowledging that Isreal is a land in the Middle East is openly denying that Jesus is the Messiah and that His covenant was fulfilled. Because if the promise was about dirt — and not fulfilled in Christ — then the cross meant nothing. Might want to get your...
  8. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Let’s be very clear, for the sake of lurkers and clarity: 1. Jesus said “taken” means judged. “The flood came and took them all away. So shall the coming of the Son of Man be.” (Matt 24:39) Not blessed. Not raptured. Taken = Judged. And who was left behind? Noah. 2. Paul says the resurrection...
  9. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So now you're trying to tell me that when Paul says the mystery was "hidden from ages and generations," that means Jesus couldn’t possibly speak of it in any form? Let me help lurkers reading this what a mystery revealed actually means: It doesn’t mean God never hinted at it. It means He...
  10. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    “The elect in Matthew can’t be the Church, because the Church didn’t exist yet.” “Paul’s gathering was a mystery, so Jesus couldn’t have talked about it.” So let me get this straight: You’re saying Jesus Christ — the eternal Word made flesh — couldn’t reference the Church… because the Church...
  11. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Now we’ve moved the Scofield goalposts again. You're admitting the wicked were taken in the flood — but now claiming that when Jesus references it, He suddenly means something totally different by “taken”? That’s not exegesis. That’s theological fraud. Jesus said: “The flood came and took...
  12. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Ah, there it is — the last refuge of Scofieldian desperation: “But our gathering is a mystery, so it can’t be in Matthew!” Translation: “If Jesus said it, it must not apply to us.” Let me break this down: Yes, Paul calls the resurrection/rapture a “mystery” in 1 Corinthians 15 — meaning it...
  13. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Now you’re admitting that the Church is “the elect”? Great — we’re finally getting somewhere. Because in Matthew 24, Jesus says: “Immediately after the tribulation… He shall gather together His elect…” — Matthew 24:29–31 You just admitted the Church is called the elect. But now you're playing...
  14. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So now you’re saying the ones who are “taken” are the righteous? The believing Jews? Really? Let’s read it again — slowly: “As it was in the days of Noah, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” — Matthew 24:37 Jesus doesn’t leave it vague — He defines the comparison: “And [they]...
  15. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You're parroting classic Scofield Dispensationalism — the idea that Matthew 24 is “only for the Jews,” that the “elect” can’t be the Church, and that Jesus was somehow not talking to His own disciples as representatives of the coming Church age. One step at a time.. Jesus — speaking directly...
  16. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    “Replacement theology” is a Dispensationalist slur — designed to smear the original Christian belief that the Church is the continuation and fulfillment of God’s covenant people. Not a replacement, but a completion. The Church doesn’t replace Israel — it is Israel. (And any Christian who...
  17. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You've just released a whole lot of Scofield smoke and Darby dust for one thread — but let’s cut straight through it with a theological blowtorch. You accuse me of “omitting” the so-called pre-trib rapture verses? I didn’t omit them — they don’t exist. Not one verse describes a secret coming of...
  18. The Gospel of Christ

    The new Pope has been selected

    The new Fallen-Angel-worshipper has been elected to reign over the ignorant, blinded and misled. Yay.
  19. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Yes — and who is Jesus talking about in that passage? “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted... ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.”
— Matthew 24:9 He’s talking to His disciples — not the Sanhedrin. Not the Knesset and not a future secular state.
 This tribulation...
  20. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    2 Thessalonians 2:1–3 (KJV) “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled… as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come...