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Thread 'Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them' Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

Bottom line fact of the matter is, modern day so-called "tongues", like all other biblical manifistations (gifts) of the Spitit, WERE, but are no more. They all ceased, and logically so, as was stated they all would in 1 Cor 13:8. Tongues may be "real" all right, but it's real nonsense; nothing...

Contrary to what you stated which is inconsistent with scripture, we DO get the spirit of God upon being saved which is exactly what Acts 2:38 teaches. Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of...

I don't have you confused, but maybe just misunderstood your previous comments. And the spirit and the soul are not one in the same since they can be divided nor did I insinuate you said that. Getting back to the subject, you'll have to better explain what you mean regarding the spirit/Spirit...

You said a lot of stuff but no scripture. The spirit or breath of life that we all have is not the gift of the Holy Ghost as in Acts 2:38. You're insinuating, they are one in the same with no differentiation. It's clear from the scriptures that the Holy Ghost/Spirit that Christians relate to is...

Who did they pray to? Who listened? Their prayers are meaningless and worthless.

The scripture is clear. It (Acts 2:38) says otherwise. It says "receive the gift of the Holy Ghost" which is the indwelling of the Spirit itself. 38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the...

Don't confuse receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit, the indwelling of the Spirit, with baptism of the Holy Spirit. Baptism of the Holy Spirit happened when and to whom? And how does this occur according to scripture? The 11 apostles were baptized in this manner in Acts 2, fulfilling John the...

Believe what you like. Goodbye

Read the original Greek. It's not "by one Spirit", but in one Spirit

I have no idea what you're attempting to say. Goodbye

Yes, I'm stuck on the one word because it's the truth that deniers can't undo no matter how hard they try. And I'm aware of the origin of the word "baptism". It's not English, but transliterated from the Greek word 'baptizo', which means to dip, plunge, immerse.

So, Jesus was wrong in your opinion, and he should have said what was said in John 3:16, right? Next time you see him or speak with him (hahaha), make it a point to correct him, eh? What a laugh! Hahaha

There is one baptism. Eph 4:5-6. And look at the earliest examples of baptism in the NT: Water baptism in the Jordan River. And follow through with baptism throughout the NT and it's clear what that one baptism is. In water.

What does that mean or are you trying to imply it means? It's very simple when ALL scripture is taken into consideration, and when you do, those that don't believe are still in sin and if so, they are lost, and if lost they are damned! Read the scriptures!

Why would he have to? It's redundant. If you believe, you'll follow through and be obedient. If you don't believe, there's nothing you would do, so, your logic is not sound. It goes without saying that you'll be damned because it's obvious and the logical outcome of disbelief.

So, by your illogical logic, Jesus words in Mk 16:16 was not correct and should have been 16He that believeth and is REPENTANT shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Instead of 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be...

It was a rhetorical question. I knew the answer and agree. Yes, we are baptized into Christ at which point our sins are remitted, we receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, and are added to the body of Christ. Acts 2:38-47

Read my post #31

Yes, that's why you must let the bible be the guide.