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@ProDeo Is Irenaeus reliable?

Many thanks for that. Indeed it is very interesting. I got one third of the way through but need a rest lol I found many errors and a lack of understanding the Orthodox mindset.. First of all, the writer says that Aquinas and the Council of Trent follow the teachings of the ECF's and are heirs...

But we have the choice of going on to perfection, which they did not have since they were booted out. As before. Suffering is the way to perfection. God can reach us where ever we are born, to atheist parents, or whatever. If we listen to the Holy Spirit He will lead us on the right path...

:) That does not rule out that we gain a sin nature once we fall by commiting our own sins. Scriptute tells us that it is our own sins that condemn us - the man that sinneth he shall die etc. The Mother's State: A view suggests it refers literally to the mother being a sinner at the time of...

@ProDeo Actually it does make a difference if you believe in original sin. You will think that it is not possible to change the state you were born into, you can just improve on it. Whereas if you think that man is born innocent like Adam, you will accept that it can be restored (and then go...

@ProDeo I would really like to understand how my theology developed since I read NCL and the difference between yours and mine if you don't mind. I take it you are still protestant? And you believe in original sin? Well I don't and believe that there is little to back it up scripturally, and...

I found it really hard to read too, but I knew it was important and was God's will that I did, so pushed through the first few chapters, reading bits over and over. I made an error and it was not 26 years ago but 36. A long time. It changed my life maybe more than when I first came to Christ...

I was handed that book, 26 years ago, by a lovely spiritual minded Christian lady, who sadly died that year from breast cancer. I had shared with her my struggles, in the 17 years since I had become a believer. Some of it I now know was because I was undiagnosed neurodivergent, with...

Yes thank you. I agree.

Sorry amigo I need things much clearer and straighforward. I am not sure what you are saying. Probably my autism.

You're welcome. Thought you needed it.

@Lizbeth I thank God for the revelations He has given you and encourage you to continue to train yourserelf in hearing Him speak and He will give you guidance. Obey Him in all things He speaks to you about and wait for Him. As for your question about the 'breathing on the disciples', I think...

Wow @1stCenturyLady Preach it!

I just bought this book on kindle and it is very good.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wonderfully-Wired-Faith-Neurodivergence-Freedom/dp/B0GZVDCLWG

https://www.theneurodivergentchristian.org/?ss_source=sscampaigns&ss_campaign_id=6a5e228482ed9743978af3cd&ss_email_id=6a87e8062d2c9f6b87e146ec&ss_campaign_name=Welcome+to+The+Neurodivergent+Christian+%E2%9C%A8&ss_campaign_sent_date=2026-08-21T05%3A54%3A21Z @Ernie

https://www.facebook.com/groups/943113800949462

There is a woman writing on FB for Neurodivergent Christians.

Are you neurodivergent?

It's not about this. It is about a desire live at a deeper, more spiritual level, turning from the things of the world and having ones relationship with God fill ones life more and more till relatively, nothing else matters. It is the desire for a pure heart and victory over the thoughts like...