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Are you saying that God never forgave any sins until after Jesus died on the cross? Show me one passage that shows that God was unable to be merciful because He is so wrathful as to be unforgiving...even as He expects us to be forgiving without sacrifice. is not our forgiveness dependent on how...

I wonder how many can detect the "nuance" between what is taught in present day church circles and what the bible actually says... Ex. If while we seek to be justified by Christ we are found to be sinners...is Christ therefore a minister of forgiveness? And the whole congregation shouted...

1. The righteous don't know they are righteous. The humble don't know they are humble. Abraham did not think of himself as righteous...far from it. The publican went home justified...but not thinking he was justified. You have to learn a lot more about what righteousness entails. The only ones...

As in...I will only follow that ways of God that already line up with my way of thinking. :rolleyes:

Amen. We have been clothed by nature what we are to sacrifice to God. The living sacrifice of ourselves. Our life in exchange for His life. :) '"'

This is from the paragraph you added My response: The lake of fire is the second death...a snuffing out of life. But outer darkness is not a ceasing of existence...it is eternal life away from God. The same life they are living now without any seeking of God for a better eternal existence. God...

I agree with imputed righteousness when God does it. What I disagree with is imputing righteousness to yourself. The system does it and you do it...it is hypocrisy. I highlight many warnings from the bible that you say are for others not yourself. That is typical of indoctrination.

That's what it seems like to you...because you just admitted to agreeing with the system you say you departed from...as in I wish you would agree with THEM. The truth of the Lord is indeed 2 sided, having this seal....The Lord knows they that are His AND...let everyone that names the name of...

Good. But it's one thing to get out of Babylon and quite another to get the Babylon out of you. You just don't understand spiritual things at any depth. And you have not been discipled. There is a way that seems right unto a woman... You have need to repent before the Lord and take a lower...

Absolutely. My ministry is not to save people from the lake of fire...since believers will have eternal life...all who believe in the Lord will be saved. No, my ministry is to save people from outer darkness. An eternity outside the presence of God. As in...go away, I never knew you. If people...

Not unless there is humility. God gives grace to the humble. And we tend to withdraw from God's purpose to our own level of comfort. After that He sends prophets to warn people. And these prophets are ignored for the most part. Many will say...why didn't you warn me? And the Lord will show how...

Again, that is only possible when holiness is present in the one doing the covering. And yes one can be covered directly from the Lord....but that requires a crucifying of the flesh. The doctrine you have believed is not of God....but from the adversary. We are not counted holy and righteous...

The bible teaches us that having favour from God does not always end well. And it just so happens that the sample of grace we receive at regeneration...TOGETHER with the many false teachings that are allowed to spread in Babylonian circles....EQUALS the mystery of iniquity, That means that God...

LOL Until then you can play the white keys and I will play the black keys...hopefully in harmony. :)

There is a time for everything. Resistance to the truth needs to be countered with instruction and warnings. I have been on this site for quite a while. The fact that I'm still here shows that I believe that no one is outside of God's love and forgiveness. All can be turned to the truth. Actions...

Not holy. Learning righteousness and seeking God from my soul....collecting the dew in the morning. Not holy, but led by the Spirit. The higher walk is supported by the character (tamim) of dependence and humility....obedience. Offering a pure sacrifice ...without blemish... involves having...

It's a good thing that you are catching yourself. God's ways are not meant to cater to our needs...beyond what He gives us to sustain our temporal lives. The truth is unyielding to our thoughts. Maintaining a tamim approach puts us in the sphere of God's mercy. His glory is something altogether...

One needs to be possessed by the Spirit to be of Christ. Having a sample of grace is not enough. One must BUY the full measure of grace to enter INTO Christ. You are not understanding God's ways or the need to fear the Lord. Those whose works are burned up risk being cast into outer...

Is it that or is it that the road to iniquity seems more seductive to those who haven't had to suffer as much???

A non-believer has no skin in the game, as it were. So it is possible for them to see the logic that follows God's ways. They will understand that humility is more important than certainty, for example. As soon as you bring in the religious dimension the human mind tends to throw out basic...