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How did Satan/spirit enter the holy court of God with the sons of God/humans? Why are you assuming "present themselves before the LORD" means entering the Holy Court standing with God? Job 1:6 (KJV) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and...

How is spirit defined? Breath, breathe, current of air, wind, mind/thought. Living physical creatures have a spirit, the spirit within is of good and or the spirit of evil without the spirit itself having flesh and bone and can only be manifested when living within physical creatures. The...

Your doctrine comes from believing folklore/fables that many biblical scholars believe originate from the teaching and writings of Enoch.

Genesis is a record of the beginning of ALL things in heaven and earth. Including the serpent whom God says has a beginning in creation of mankind along with everything else that God created in six days. The serpent that God says "was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God...

Satan is a liar and murderer from the beginning of the six days of creation when the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea and ALL that is in them. Exodus 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the...

God's special people are the SPIRITUAL descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, belonging to the supernatural SEED (Christ). The physical city of Jerusalem of Old ceased being God's special city through spiritual apostasy. Since the advent of Christ Jerusalem from above is the Holy/heavenly...

In both Hebrew and Greek angel is interpreted messenger. Rev 1:20 leaves us without guessing because John plainly tells us the seven stars are human messengers (angels) of the seven churches and the seven candlesticks are the churches.

SO! Pay attention to the discussion of others if you wish to contribute thoughtfully to what is being said and be considered. The question posed has to do with the statement initially made by wpm, "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels." He makes this bold statement as if he's proven...

You seem to think that repeating the same unbiblical arguments again and again will somehow make your opinions truth. Throughout these 48 pages, as well as other posts the verses used in the OP have already been shown and ignored that they do not support your unbiblical opinion regarding Satan...

SO! Who has argued humans go back and forth between heaven and earth? Yes, you and wpm would love to deflect back to the OP to discuss ad nauseum what has already been addressed throughout these 48 pages. It's not false accusation! This entire conversation is driven by the belief that...

None of the verses used in the OP support the opinion that stars represent angels, nor do they prove "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels."

Did Jacob see angels flying to and fro? No! Jacob saw angels climbing up and down on a ladder. That's the problem? Trying to force stars to represent angels in the verses used from the OP does NOT prove "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels". Forcing contradiction and confusion...

This is your classic go to reply.....DEFLECTION!

Whose avoiding? Prove "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels"!!! Deflection is always your go to reply!

Where does the Bible speak of angels as stars as you and others assume? The only way we might arrive at that conclusion is by reading our OPINION into the Word of God!

What particular context in your opinion warrants angels being depicted as stars? The Bible sometimes uses the imagery of stars to depict people, but I do not find the Bible pattern representing stars as angels. That is reading one's opinion into the text.

Twelve stars in Rev 12 represents the full number of the tribes of Israel who are human and not angels.

What makes you believe angels or humans fly back and forth from heaven?

Whosoever from among the twelve stars, Israel of Old, that died in unbelief! Do you believe the woman depicted here has twelve angels upon her head? Revelation 12:1 (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her...

It's not a matter of making a distinction between man and angels. You seem not able to make a distinction between stars (symbolically or literally) and angels!