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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    That pronoun could be referring to God except for the fact that verse 14 attributes the gathering to the evil spirits. The unbelieving Jews were in the physical city of Jerusalem, which changed to a Gentile name (Sodom and Egypt). The Lord “defended” New Jerusalem and its occupants by...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Ok, I’ll bring up a solution that makes sense … In Zechariah 14:2 the word “nations” <1471> is the Hebrew word goy. Here is what Biblehub says … Usage: The Hebrew word "goy" primarily refers to a nation or a group of people. In the Old Testament, it is often used to describe non-Israelite...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Ok, then by that same logic we can say that the Lord gathers at the end of the millennium also. In order for that idea to be plausible we would need to see an instance where it can’t be said that the Lord gathers, else it seems to be somewhat random as to who gets the credit for gathering. Do...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    In Revelation 16:13-14 it is the unclean spirits that gather to battle. How are you making the connection that it’s the Lord that is gathering here?
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Ok, thanks, I skimmed over where he said eternal kingdom thinking it was millennial kingdom. Regardless I’m interested in if he see the Lord gathering the nations in Revelation.
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    In Zechariah 14:2 it says “I” will gather, meaning it’s the Lord that gathers the nations against Jerusalem to battle. In Revelation 16:13-14 it’s the unclean spirits out of the dragon, beast, and false prophet that gather, which corresponds to Revelation 19:19 where it’s the beast’s and kings...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    A Jew who believed in the old covenant and believed that it was a valid covenant was considered a believer prior to the cross. A Jew who believed in the old covenant and believed that it was a valid covenant was not a believer after the cross unless they believed Jesus was Messiah. After the...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    In Acts 15:28-29 a different burden was placed on the Gentiles than was placed on the Jews. Today nobody is asked if they are Jew or Gentile when they join a church. During the first century a temporary situation occurred where a person could both hold to the old covenant Law and also believe...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    I’m not sure if you would agree or disagree, but look at 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I’m sure you don’t think...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Here are some quotes from the OP regarding the Premil millennium … “Not one single person on the entire planet is still being deceived during their proposed Millennium.” “Christ and His bodily immortal saints are ruling and governing the entire planet.” “Righteousness is dwelling throughout...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    I’m not going to argue for the Amill position, but I do think it is more accurate than the Premill position. As for 2 Thessalonians 2:3, my take on it, having a OSAS view, is that it’s talking specifically about those who both believed and were zealous for the law (Acts 21:20). The transition...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Well, I’m not an Amill, so you’ll have to ask someone else that question.
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Here’s something that could be considered … Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. If the Premill millennium is full of just, righteous people then the joy in heaven...
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    The appointed time is fulfilled

    Are you of the opinion that the Holy Spirit never left Jesus? Meaning the Holy Spirit hung on the cross together with Jesus, died together, and rose together with Jesus.
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    The appointed time is fulfilled

    Yes, Jesus received the Holy Spirit at His baptism, but that was a temporary situation. When Jesus died, He was alone and forsaken, the oil was not hurt (Revelation 6:6) When we look at the Daniel 9:24 list, if we place “to anoint the most Holy” as being fulfilled when Jesus was baptized then...
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    The appointed time is fulfilled

    I see I made an error in my post #7, my bad, I should’ve said 69th and 70th week, not 68th and 69th. I changed it, I need some coffee this morning!
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    The appointed time is fulfilled

    How could all seventy weeks have already been fulfilled when Jesus spoke the words of Mark 1:15? Did John the Baptist confirm the covenant in week 70?
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    The appointed time is fulfilled

    The appointed time was when week 69 was fulfilled. The 70th week didn’t start with Jesus’s baptism, it started when John the Baptist was put in prison. Elias (John the Baptist) must come first. I don’t know why so many people insist Jesus’s ministry started with His baptism, but to me that...
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    Revelation 1:10 - the Lord’s Day

    Picture the tabernacle, specifically the holy place. As you would enter it, the table of presence would be in your right, the altar of incense in front of you, and the seven lamps (golden lamp stand) on your left. The bread of presence or showbread was set out every Sabbath day and eaten in the...
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    Offenders in the kingdom

    Hmmm … so if someone were to say Jesus was crucified in 30AD you would toss that out as being limited to a physical point in time? No doubt Jesus transcends time as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the earth but as far as that event taking place in time as we know it, it happened in 30AD...