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  1. Stumpmaster

    What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

    Many scholars categorise the term "born again" as a metaphor because it carries the meaning across by referencing the natural process to describe the spiritual one. Quote from Cambridge Dictionary: METAPHORICALLY metaphorically adverb relating to or using metaphors (= expressions that...
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    What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

    John 15:1-2 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. (2) Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
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    What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

    The username Shekel comes to mind. I didn't know he recanted, but I recall a dogmatic reliance on his formulas at the forefront of his material which might have had an undesirable influence.
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    What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

    Metaphors have their limits. Going beyond such limits leads to error, and heresy. Receiving the Spirit and then rejecting it is possible. Many think because they have been magically "born again" they can never think, say, or do anything that would jeopardise their supposed salavation. The...
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    What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

    Yes, very clearly and sensibly stated @Keturah Much of the New Testament, and particularly the book of Hebrews addresses the potential to forfeit salvation. Heb 10:28-29 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. (29) Of how much worse...
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    What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

    I've come across a few former professing Christians who have either lost their faith or renounced it. Real scenario. It happens. Heb 6:4-6 For concerning those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, (5) and tasted the good word...
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    Kind of strawman stuff, but that's alright.
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    And there is much evidence to affirm this . . . Observation from Revelation: No-one who worships the beast or his image or receives his mark numbers among the Elect, but rather they number among the deceived. Having no defence against unrestrained evil and deception, many worship the beast and...
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    What about a limp? :p
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    Glad we agree.
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    So He did, but the reprobates and sons of perdition are disqualified. If good works can't get anyone saved, how much less works of iniquity. 2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed...
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    Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

    For answers please note: Rom 7:21-25 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. (22) For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. (23) But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity...
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    Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

    Repetition noted.
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    Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

    Yeah, that's why they repent when instructed to. 1Jn 1:5-2:1 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. (6) If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth...
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    Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

    Yeah, that's why genuine Christians keep repenting. Failure to do so is a sin.
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    Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

    I wonder how many Christians at Ephesus obeyed the instructions they were given: Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent. I wonder how many Christians...
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    Pain and rejection

    What music do you listen to?
  18. Stumpmaster

    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    Faith 101. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. (Romans 10:17) Faith 102. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1) Faith 103. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge...
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    Interesting. Works without faith cannot save, as many are unaware of, like the foolish Galations who fell from grace.
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    Denying the Cross: How to do it

    Works without faith are dead works just as faith without works is dead faith. Heb 6:1-9 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, (2) of the...