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  1. Fred J

    There is no "Paul's Gospel", until Jesus died on The Cross.

    We disagree, that's your 'shortsightedness' to the scripture context and sound doctrine of the New Testament, 'twisted' and 'spun' version.
  2. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Another pointer brethren, this is what Jesus Himself said, John 10: 17. Therefore doth My FATHER love Me, because I lay down My life, that I might take it again. 18. No man taketh it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have the power to lay it down, and I have the power to take it again...
  3. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Dough, have a very strong point there, that no one can do anything to Jesus unless the FATHER in Heaven allows. So they couldn't have Him crucified if His time had not come, for many times He escaped by divine intervention. The fulfillment of the scriptures will indeed come to pass, and no one...
  4. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    For the record, obviously translation issues overtime in English, words can differ, even stretched, from time to time and over the years. GOD is 'omniscience', 'omnipotent' and 'omnipresent', therefore one can do the math, figuratively speaking. It has taken place under HIS very knowledge to...
  5. Fred J

    There is no "Paul's Gospel", until Jesus died on The Cross.

    Obviously a heretic! How about the Gospel only took flight through Apostle Paul, and there was no Gospel before that, in your post? Thank you.
  6. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Am i missing something here, are you GodsGrace, or both of you have something going on? This is because i happen to notice your 'likes' in every one of her posts, and now you're answering her letters? Anyway would appreciate you get it, that i disagree with your version all the way, since...
  7. Fred J

    There is no "Paul's Gospel", until Jesus died on The Cross.

    Romans 2: 1. Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. What an 'irony', Paul became saved way later and the Gospel through him since took flight? By the way...
  8. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    So you say teacher, am leaving you with this... So what the correct translation is 'BORN FROM ABOVE'? Simple understanding like a child would be fine, 'BORN AGAIN' has been fine by the church saints having the Holy Ghost themselves since, and 'none' of them are condemned. Only Jesus the...
  9. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Well He did mention, 'be born of water'. John the Baptist is the 'best man' for the Bridegroom(Jesus), and was water baptizing the 'brides'(Jews) before His arrival. And after His arrival, the 'Bridegroom' and 'friends'(disciples) were water baptizing the 'brides'(Jews) too. Then when the...
  10. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    But Nicodemus did not know 'this', since he's apparently not born again from above. And Jesus left it at that and merely pointed out verse 3&5, as generally every man including Nicodemus should have attained. Nicodemus as all the leaders of Israel are 'learned', but were 'blind guides' for...
  11. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    You need not agree with me as i don't you, am doing it for other silent readers who are truly born again and humble. They also had the tendency to talk to satan and his angels who are masters of disguise. Well, Nicodemus a teacher of Israel was wrong about a whole life "do over"..... whole...
  12. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    That's where we differ, as you refuse to add words to the scripture because you gained not the wisdom, but merely repeating what's of others. On the other hand we too don't add words, but rather according to the wisdom given us we explain in other words what the scripture meant. Your...
  13. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Verse 3, Jesus said, A man must be 'born again', or he cannot 'see' the Kingdom of GOD. 'Born again' meaning 'Reborn', since everyone already had a child birth once before from their mother's womb and water bag Then verse 5, Jesus said, A man must be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, or he...
  14. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    2 Timothy 3: 7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. How many explanation in my given reply have been posted, until to the point you folks accused the church fathers for changing words in translation. Until i replied back again, this has been done under the...
  15. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Friend, as a child of GOD there's no reason to 'think' but rather be assured in faith, and least an unbeliever make a mockery. And what's the 'water baptism' from the Gospels to the book of Acts is all about, not the 'water' Jesus is referring to? Every adult perceive naturally in the...
  16. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    "Verily, verily, except a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of GOD." Is fine by us, 'born again' or 'born from above', in context we perceive in the spirit both terms are referring to the same thing. And there's no dispute nor a big fuss about it, but only to the 'unstable in faith'...
  17. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Sadly, i don't understand what the major issue here, whether 'born again' or 'born from above', both refers to 'spiritual birth'. We even 'refuted' and scripturally 'corrected' this carnally educated folly person for bringing such a minor scriptural difference that relates to the same matter...
  18. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    1 Corinthians 1: 17. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the Gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the Cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18. For the preaching of the Cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of GOD. 19. For...
  19. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    The word, 'dear' is used when we're writing a letter to a male or female. On the other hand, am sticking to 'born again' because it suites well with the context. John 3: 4. Nicodemus saith unto Him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second tine into his mother's womb, and...
  20. Fred J

    What is your take? Satan was the Religious Zealots of that time.

    Scripturally, satan wasn't the religious Jewish Pharisee, but rather, the god of this world who've blinded the minds of unbelievers. Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ