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That doesnt make sense

@LatterRain Then we dont agree, one must be born again in order to believe in Jesus

You are a spammer, you follow me around and harras me every chance you get, you have done this for a couple of years now, if not more

I have shown scripture, you dont believe it or understand it

I seen it. What else should I say ? I even posted to it

It is, the way you meant it. If salvation is conditioned on a person receiving a gift from someone, and receiving is a action verb, then its a work.

Yeah spamming, you disrupt every thread to argue election, calvinism

I have seen it

No it doesnt, thats your imagination.

I never said anything about Jn 12:42, what Im saying, believing in Christ is the evidence of salvation, of having been born again.

Here you go spamming up the thread

Yes it does equate, man by nature cant believe in Jesus, because they are spiritually dead. Jn 12 42 doesnt change that fact

Show where I said a gift is works salvation

Okay and ?

@Behold This is man centered works salvation, denial of grace salvation

Go look it up. You understand post 95

God chooses your delusions and causes you to believe a lie Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. 2...

Because the elect of God have a representative union with Christ their Head, and because He rose from the dead as such, each one of them will experience of His resurrection by being given a new birth or spiritual resurrection Eph 2:5-6; 1 Pet 1:3 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened...

You cant understand the clarification. I cant just keep clarifying to someone who lacks understanding

You cant understand the clarification. I cant just keep clarifying to someone who lacks understanding