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The dead in Christ will rise when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Think about this. MANY of them that sleep in the dust of the earth will be raised. Not all of them, many of them. This is the harvest that occurs at the 6th seal. You are confusing the judgement that occurs after the 7th...

Absolutely not. 1 Thes 4 is the rapture of the Church which happens before the great tribulation. The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Then the 7th seal is opened and the one-year wrath of God begins. The last day of the age occurs...

I'm going to have to agree with you partially. It certainly appears to be avoidance. The reasoning however appears to be spot on.

Certainly, this is what is commonly taught. Now let's get to the facts. The dead in Christ rise first in the spring. This is the barley harvest. The alive remain. When the Lord returns for the alive the remain at the end of summer He will bring the dead in Christ with Him. The end of summer...

I don't know if you are talking to me or rebuilder 454. If you are talking to me your conclusion would be in error as I know that the gathering is from both heaven and earth. It is the Church that is gathered from heaven and the 12 tribes across the earth that are gathered from the earth at the...

You just proved my point. No, I don't. God does. The wrath of God is one year. Please provide a scripture that shows that Israel flees in the midst of the trumpets. I don't think you can provide one. Also, all of those 1260 days are not the wrath of God. The wrath of God lasts one-year.

Cause..............effect.

So what you are saying is that you do not understand what the stars falling from heaven is? Try the internet, I'm sure there are many that know.

Don't be ignorant of this mystery. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. I don't expect you to understand this...

And yet both with wise virgins and foolish virgins have oil. The Church will already be in heaven at this point. Those that are not in darkness will be of the 12 tribes. That day will not take they unaware as they will know He is coming for them at the last trump which is blown on the feast of...

Exactly. There are two folds that are combined into one-fold, which is the great multitude that attend the marriage supper of the Lamb. The marriage supper takes place in heaven during the one-year wrath of God. Both folds are in heaven as one-fold as they are both raptured to heaven. The first...

Oh, come on! Are you unable to see that the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven at the 6th seal. Are you unable to see that the sun and moon are also darkened and the stars fall from heaven in Matthew 24. If a person has just the slightest bit of deductive reasoning, they...

Notice what happens at the 6th seal. The same signs in the sun, moon and stars. There is a rapture at the 6th seal.........the second rapture. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair...

The day of the Lord occurs at Armageddon. The day of wrath last one year and begins when the 7th seal is opened. The day of the Lord occurs at the end of that year. Look what else happens at the 6th seal. First the great tribulation is over. Second, all the tribes of the earth will mourn as...

Can you see in BLUE the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven. Can you see in BOLD BLACK the tribulation is over when the 6th seal is opened. The signs of the sun, moon and stars show us that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The tribulation is not the wrath of God no...

The seed of the woman is the twelve tribes across the earth. Those that get victory sing the song Moses, they are Jews. Revelation 15 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over...

Which are watching and ready? Amil or premil

God saw the fathers of Isael as the first ripe in the fig tree at her first time, but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

Right. Two folds into one-fold with one shepherd.

That was the plan wasn't it. But they would not. Matthew 23 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38...