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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Here it is: GJohn 10 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” No other religious founder can say the words Christ said in...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    The eternal consequences for non believers who do not accept God's offer of salvation is to be destined to the Lake of Fire. They are lost forever. I rather think we both agree on this question. The Scripture that teaches this to us are the same ones you use! Did you know that Jesus gave an...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Do me the honor of showing me where in the Bible your comment (on these IFs) is supported. Here you have two prerequisites for a person to get saved. The only issue one needs to follow is to have faith in Christ. How much faith? Anymore than none at all. Unbelievers do not need to have the...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    No mention of sin in these verses. You last comment is correct.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    What does this verse have to do with a literal interpretative method? Try to answer this question without posing another question. Anyone can ask questions all day, but to make propositional statements takes a lot of studying the Word. The only eternal consequences that unbelievers will ever...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Using the literal, grammatical, contextual, cultural method of interpretation, I would say absolutely. Using the interpretive method you use, no. We don't have different interpretations, but we have radically different interpretation methods. I can tell you do not read a lot of theology. Since...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Notice that the unbelieving false teachers have been bought (redeemed), not potentially bought. see 2 Pt2.1k and 1 John 2.2 see also 2 Cor 5.19. There are literally hundreds of verses that teach this dogmatically. Show me the sins at the Judgment seat of Christ or at the Great White Throne.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    What was wrong with the verses I gave you? 2 Pt 2.1 clearly states that the false teachers have had their sins paid for. The sins ARE paid for and they ARE unbelievers. This nonsense that Christ potentially paid for the unbelievers' sins is in clear contradiction to 2 Pt 2.1 and 1 John 2.2, and...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Just to bring up one aspect of this discussion. Personal sins are not the basis for eternal condemnation. Nobody is condemned to the lake of fire because of their sins. Christ paid the penalty for all sins; that's the good news (gospel). In fact, God did not impute the sins onto the person who...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter (not in the churches). Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    And this is the case for those who have the same method of interpretation.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    I think you are struggling with the fundamental clarity of scripture. An interpretation comes after an interpretation method is chosen. I take the scriptures as literal (historical, lexical, grammatical, etc) . Those who also take the scriptures literal will basically come to a literal...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Whom do we believe? The one who is in agreement with Scripture. How does the bible teach us to baptize? John the Baptist demonstrated that for us. I'm on another thread and most on there don't even know how to baptize! If so, they are ignorant of scripture.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    2 Pt 1.3 His divine power has given us everything required for life and godliness through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
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    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    Luke 2.34; 14.14, 20.33,34,36, 11.24, 20.33, 23.6, 24.15, 24.15 John 11.25, 3.36, 5.29 Acts 1.22, 2.31, 4.33; 24.15, Rom 1.4, 6.5; Phil 3:10,11, 1 Pt 1.3, 3.21 1 Cor 15.21,42 2 Tim 2.18, Heb 11.35 Rev 20.5,6 Where is it mentioned in the gospels? Do you need references for Jesus'...
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    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    The same event? Reconcile the basic chart below. They don't seem to be the same event to me. Each number on the top chart corresponds with the same number on the chart below. I have posted this before but it is a good reminder of the differences between the Rapture and 2nd Coming: At the...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    I am looking for someone more scholarly to discuss this with. You have been blocked from interacting with me.
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Remember that God's/the Lamb's wrath first occurs in Rev 6 (see for example verse 16). The church is exempt (3.10) from the time of the Tribulation, which is the final 7 years of the Jewish Dispensation. In Rev 19, the bride has made herself ready, and then returns with Christ and other heavenly...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    1 Thes 4.17 ἔπειτα ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες οἱ περιλειπόμενοι ἅμα σὺν αὐτοῖς ἁρπαγησόμεθα ἐν νεφέλαις εἰς ἀπάντησιν τοῦ κυρίου εἰς ἀέρα· καὶ οὕτως πάντοτε σὺν κυρίῳ ἐσόμεθα.18 Ὥστε παρακαλεῖτε ἀλλήλους ἐν τοῖς λόγοις τούτοις. There it is, just a plain as day. Remember, I said the Bible, not a...