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  1. Wick Stick

    Can you separate yourself from your doctrines? - Who are you really?

    That's why it's better to define oneself in terms of WHO we trust, rather than WHAT we believe. It started so well...
  2. Wick Stick

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    I think the issue only exists if one holds to a Trinitarian formulation that requires the Father and Son to be separate Persons, starting from eternity past. I don't hold that view. I would like to elaborate on that, but I think the forum rules here prohibit debates on the Trinity, so I won't.
  3. Wick Stick

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    My source on this is Stories from Ancient Canaan, particularly the story called Kirta. Kirta is the name of the main character, an ancient king of Ugarit. (Ugarit is a city of the Amorites, who are a tribe of Canaanites) There's no mention of anointing in the story, or the rest of the book for...
  4. Wick Stick

    Of what value is the fulfillment of OT prophecy? - since the prophecies were acquired rather than intended

    I don't think that's how prophecy is supposed to work. Prophets are meant to predict specific things that come to pass in the short-term, not vagaries that are hundreds of years in the future. That way, the prophet's contemporaries can SEE that he is a true prophet, OR... stone him to death if...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    I didn't get that out of my conversation with him. I'll let Daq speak for himself... I don't think he needs an Aaron.
  6. Wick Stick

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    As I understand it, Romans 6 is about how death frees us from the body's propensity towards sinning. I don't see that it has much to do with the idea of Adoptionism. There is certainly an idea in the early church that Jesus' resurrection is a victory over death, and Hades. The captives are...
  7. Wick Stick

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That's a pretty good question. :gd At the risk of being a disappointing answer... it might just be nomenclature. Some explanation is needed... "Jesus" as a name clearly belongs to a human person (adoption notwithstanding) "Logos" as a concept clearly belongs to the Godhead. But "Christos..."...
  8. Wick Stick

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    It kind of exists. A minority manuscript of Luke puts these words at Jesus' baptism, rather than his resurrection. There are several verses that would seem to place the Adoption event at the Resurrection, though. I don't know that this is a controversy that can be settled using only...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Academia thinks that this happened as part of David's coronation as king over Jerusalem. Why do they hypothesize that? because they're acquainted with the customs of the Canaanites. And one of those customs, is that every king over a Canaanite city-state - as part of their coronation - is...
  10. Wick Stick

    Ultimately, it's not a matter of who is right and who is wrong... (?)

    The point of the verse is that we should NOT take vengeance. You seem to have left out the first half of the verse, though: Romans 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." Imagine reading a...
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    Ultimately, it's not a matter of who is right and who is wrong... (?)

    A thought for your consideration... What if God has been presented to you as fearful and vengeful, because the people presenting Him that way want to control you through fear? Does that seem like an unkind thought? I think it's kinder than the alternative... that you just like punching down...
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    Ok, but I think I have it better than Adam. I have central heating, Sunday football, and a freezer full of ice cream. Plus my wife doesn't talk to snakes, as far as I know. Why do I need restoration if my world is better than the original one?
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    What if I don't think that that the creation was ever in a state of perfection? Adam and Eve may have started in God's paradise, but when they sinned, there was already a wilderness next door for them to be exiled into. When Cain committed murder, he got exiled even further from paradise, into...
  14. Wick Stick

    When will the earth be 6,000 years old?

    I was thinking more of the OT genealogies, but I guess one genealogy is as good (uh... bad?) as another.
  15. Wick Stick

    When will the earth be 6,000 years old?

    I don't think it's possible to calculate it without referring to the genealogies, which the New Testament specifically tells us to ignore: 1Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do]. Titus...
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    Reason for The Crusades explained

    With a name like Smedley, you know he learned to fight early
  17. Wick Stick

    Reason for The Crusades explained

    Peace has lousy profit margins.
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Have you ever looked at the controversy of David being anointed king? There are numerous places where David is described as 'ruddy,' which turns out NOT to be a compliment, but rather a veiled accusation that his ancestors were perhaps from Edom (literally means "red"). There is also the odd...