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Sounds like Jesus does not cover all future sins then. Then it's unjust for God to hold us responsible for our actions! After all, we were born sinners and we just can't help it! A minute ago you just said we were born sinners and we can't help but doing sin since we are born that way...

I guess the catholics are gay friendly now right? If they still think it's a sin the gay person can swing by the church and confess to their priest and be all good to go. Kinda like in those mafia movies. They go out and murder someone, swing by the priest's crib for absolution, and get back...

Is this true for rapists too? They get saved but they are still raping women but over time we hope they rape fewer and fewer women. If all future sins are already forgiven, then the Lord won't mind if the guy goes on raping women as long as he is making some progress where he's raping fewer...

Yep, just don't call me late for supper!

I wasn't coming after anybody. I've seen lots of people accuse others of being a troll in efforts to prevent others from speaking. It comes down to somebody doesn't like what someone else is saying, so they start calling them a troll

Uh oh, they'll be claiming you are a troll since you don't agree with everybody else who all say we can never lose our salvation no matter what.

Sounds like if somebody can't win a debate, the next tactic is to accuse them of being a troll and hope the moderators kick them out!

You must be confusing Heaven with hell. God isn't going to allow evil in Heaven.

Isn't that what people say when someone disagrees with them? Accuse them of being a troll to try and get the moderators kick them out? I've seen this of boards I'm on related to computers and software.

No actually someone replied to one of my posting saying this.

Going to Heaven is like going to the ghetto? I never heard there was a bunch of crime going on in Heaven.

If He is withholding forgiveness than they proves all future sins are not forgiven.

But our past, present and future sins are still forgive then right?

Apparently we really can never know the answer. There's no sound advice following the declaration that this is all ambiguous! In other words, God no longer communicates with mankind? This is just as bad as saying that this is all ambiguous! Sounds like you believe God is confused and...

Some believe without air and water, it's really hard for people to continue living, others are not so sure

And it's ambiguous? Sounds about as clear as mud. So God is holding back understanding and may at some point share that with us sometime in the future? That sounds very sketchy And God's grace has forgiven all our sins past, present and future for those that have been saved.

OK so you support the gay christians and believe they are saved too? What does this have to do with all ours sins being forgiven, past present, and future? Are they? Or are they not? That is the question.

Too many contradictions floating around

Sound's like willful ignorance is bliss! Ambiguity Doubtfulness or uncertainty as regards interpretation. Something of doubtful meaning. "a poem full of ambiguities." The state of being ambiguous; doubtfulness or uncertainty, particularly of signification. I asked for forgiveness when...

In other words we can't really know what correct understanding is. Sounds like trying to understand the bible is a crap shoot like gambling in vegas. Hoe do you know the Holy Spirit hasn't shown him lots of stuff? Is it that you disagree with what he says therefore you conclude he's not...