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What do you mean there is no future for turning ethnic Israel to Jesus? Have they not had to date about 2,000 years of time to hear the gospel of the Kingdom of God and believe in Christ for eternal life, just as every other nation of the world has? You're trying to cut out a time for ethnic...

To my knowledge Charlie there is only ONE way to interpret Scripture! We must allow Scripture to interpret itself, through the Spirit of Christ in us, and though I know you believe you are doing exactly that, in truth IMO you have allowed dispensationalism, possibly Zionism to influence how you...

Where does Scripture say that God will lift the blindness from Israel in unbelief? The prophetic words of Zechariah were fulfilled when Christ sent His Spirit "of grace and supplications" on the day of Pentecost, and devout Jews from every nation under heaven heard the gospel of the Kingdom...

The only ones without understanding are those like yourself! Those who have no understanding of the difference between tribulation and persecution God allows to come against His Church on this earth, and the TERRIBLE WRATH of God that shall come upon all who remain in unbelief!

I wholeheartedly agree! Which is why I believe the words Christ spoke from the Mount of Olives of "great tribulation" are directed to the Church on earth as faithful Christians proclaim the gospel of the Kingdom of God unto all the nations of the world. What other entity upon the earth has...

Charlie, I will agree that God permitted the rebuilding of the city and temple of Old after the captivity because that would be where the coming Messiah would make Himself physically known unto His people, who are thy people of faith like that of Daniel, who were the biological offspring of...

I agree the city and temple destroyed in the captivity were rebuilt exactly as Daniel prophesies and would be inhabited by Jewish Israel (Daniel's people, also called the 'remnant') who chose to return after the 70 years of captivity. But that does not prove "thy people" referred to Jews in...

There is little logic in continuing this discussion with you! You've been repeatedly shown to be in error, but because you have this mindset only you alone, since you alone have not fallen under the influence of what you call "pagan false doctrine of church-ianity", is the only Christian on...

Can you explain how this logically fits historically if "thy people" speaks of Daniel's unbelieving kinsmen according to the flesh? It makes no sense for God to send Daniel a message that He knows will not be true. Because the city and temple Daniel's biological people will rebuild along with...

I'm not forgetful that A&E were created without possessing the knowledge of good or evil. Christ speaks these words not to imply that He is not good, for He is God! Jesus is turning the question back on the seeker of eternal life who does not believe Christ to be God or own Him as God. So...

You haven't really answered my question, so I'll focus on vs 1. Gabriel tells Daniel: Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting...

This is what I've been saying all along! What appears to have you baffled is how in the beginning when God created humankind (Adam), it was "very good", because before man disobeyed God man was created with eternal breath of life (spirit) and a body that became destined to death only AFTER...

This is why much of what you believe regarding the spirit and soul of which mankind are is so convoluted and that you must rely on what man (science) has said instead of believing what God has said!

Do you believe man ceases to be "natural man" when they are indwelt with the Holy Spirit?

Do you believe before Christ came the spirit (breath of life) in them returned to God after the body died? Why does Christ after His coming speak of death as it was before He came, speaking the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, where He says only the rich man went into the grave, but Lazarus...

The way the mind of mankind was made to function is through the breath of life (spirit) breathed into him. It took both the body + God's breath of life (spirit) for mankind to become a "living soul." When the body dies, without the Spirit of God to continue to give it life, yes there is only a...

The Bible containing the word of Christ must appear a fantastic work of fiction to you! The fact that man who has been born again HAS eternal life through the Spirit of Christ in us, is not what I say it's what Christ has promised! If this eternal life is not found in the spirit of man, where...

I agree! How was man the likeness and image of God? We know it is not through his body of clay because God is Spirit. What part of man was made the likeness and image of God if not through the Spirit breath of life that God breathed into them?

Pardon the interruption of the discussion between yourself and TS. It's been very informative. I hope you won't mind me asking you one question, When you say the plan of the Messiah was to "restore His people and His city back to the way it was prior to the Babylonian destruction" do you...

I believe the breath of God breathed into man comes through spirit - which is defined: from G4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman)...