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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Actually, it was an act of mercy that God permitted it. God did not make anyone dead, mortal. Death and sin are powers of the devil, not God. Heb 2:14-16. God already had a plan which was Christ coming as the incarnated ONE, so that by His own death He could restore life to our mortal natures.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    When Adam sinned he not only broke the eternal relationship he had with God, but he suffered death, physical death, became mortal, dust to dust, Gen 3:19. This was an act of merch on God's sovereign will, that since death came through our nature, so the solutin to death would also come through...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    So, it was just a matter of being lifted up that matters? He did not need to die and rise again on the third day? How can you miss so much scripture? Again, read I Cor 15:12-19. If the dead are not raised then your faith is in vain. Why? because you are still in your sins and you will not be...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    So, you believe that Christ's death and resurrection was not necessary for your salvation? Where is that stated in scripture? I understand but do you? And where do you get this from what I stated? You must have been reading something else.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Are you referring to John 3:16-17 If so, it highlights what I have been saying. By His Incarnation, Christ came to save the world, Save the world from what?: Death, Heb 2:14-16, Heb 2:9. He saved the world, so that all those who believe might have eternal life with Him. If He did not save the...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Could you explain to me why Christ needed to die physically and rise from the dead physically if it was not necessary. Why did He need to assume our human nature in other words to be Incarnated, become man. if it was not necessary. A spiritual death has no effect upon our human nature. We...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    I have no understanding of what you are saying. Jesus's death and resurrection had no direct effect upon being born again. That was the purpose of God restoring life to the world. That is not what scripture says. All men have the ability to respond to God. All men will be held accountable...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    He died both ways,. Spiritual first, broke the relationship. Second the world suffered death, physical death because of that sin.. Dust to Dust. Gen 3:19, It is reinforced in Rom 5:12, Rom 8:20-22. If Jesus did not come it would not matter what you did. You would simply die as animals do. Dust...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Because Paul says so in Rom 3:26-28; Rom 5:1; Eph 2:8, 15; Acts 3:16 and many others We know it because it was proclaimed in scripture. We, by faith believe, and hope for the resurrection in the last day. It has nothing to do with the topic, except that is why Christ needed to reconcile the...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Even though you are not responding to me, I feel I should answer this post anyway. The scripture is Gen 3:19, Rom 5:12, Rom 8:20-22 No, there would be no eternity. That death, the consequence of Adam's sin was dust to dust, Gen 3:19. That was permanent death, non-existence of His whole...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    That is your choice. You apparently do not understand the topic which is why you cannot stay on topic.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    God does the regeneration, but man chooses for God to do so. However, this is not what the topic is about.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    I do read them otherwise I would not have known it was not relevant to the topic which was the reconciliation by Christ. We can discuss a believers relationship with Christ in other post and topics. But it is not germaine here.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Being born again does not prevent anyone from sinning. It would be great if true, but alas we all sin. That is our human condition in this life. We sin. If you think you don't sin or are without sin I John 1:7-9 says differently.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    This is what so many are missing regarding the fall of man. True, Adam broke the perfect relationship he had with God. But the consequence of that sin was death. Rom 5:12. That death was physical. God told Adam that he would return to dust. Gen 3:19. Adam lost for mankind and the world an...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    If Christ did not come to reconcile the world, there would be no eternity. Mankind and the world would simply dissolve to dust from whence we came. No, Christ reconciled the WORLD to GOD. Col 1:20, II Cor 5:18-19. Being set free from the bondage of sin does not mean you will not, or cannot...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    The question I have is why did He need to come and die and be resurrected? You are correct that there would be no "born again" unless there was a reconciliation. What did Christ reconcile? Why was it necessary? To whom did Christ reconcile?
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    I'm not asking you to chase my trash. I was asking you to explain YOUR view, not mine. I have questions based on your view. Must I assume you don't even understand your own view in detail, theologically enough to explain it.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    No, Even now, based on the questions I asked you have answered only one. Based on your theology, you indicated believers are being reconciled. You did not answer from what were they reconciled, nor how it was accomplished? Give it some thought, based on your view.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Staying on the topic of reconciliation, can you explain just what Christ reconciled, from what did He reconcile, and how it was done.? You keep repeating Rom 5:10 but what does your theology actually say about the above question?