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Okay so you believe a false notion that Salvation for some is conditioned on ethnicity, the flesh. Thats denies Salvation by Grace

Good News hard to believe And what might that be ? That sinful men have been reconciled to God while they are enemies! The only condition they must meet is to be, ungodly enemies, opposing God in their minds by wicked works! And still sinners have obtained the Favor of God,Gods Wrath against...

@Rightglory Absolutely false. Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. These active enemies are reconciled to God by Christs death, so God is at peace with them, not at wrath with...

You cant believe that and insist the 144 000 in Rev 7 is confined to ethnic jews, and doesnt include all nations, tongues as in Vs 9-10 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne...

Yes you are, since you believe and declare the 144 000 in Rev 7, a Salvation verse, that they are ethnic jews only. Now strawman that !

Good News hard to believe And what might that be ? That sinful men have been reconciled to God while they are enemies! The only condition they must meet is to be, ungodly enemies, opposing God in their minds by wicked works! And still sinners have obtained the Favor of God,Gods Wrath against...

Then you teaching a Salvation that denies Grace and promotes a salvation based upon the flesh. Confidence in the flesh.

You promoting Salvation by race which denies Grace, not scripture.

Salvation is never ever based upon the flesh, ethnicity, that's a flat out denial of Grace and makes God a respecter of persons. Now strawman that !

Rev 7 is about Salvation, the sealing of the 144000 is about Salvation, you insist they are ethnic jews. So you can say by Faith alone all you want, you deny it out the other side of your mouth.

Hope God delivers you from the delusion of Salvation based upon ethnicity, since it denies Grace Salvation.

@Timtofly Thats the Church chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph 5:25-27 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church...

Sounds like you promoting Salvation because of race too

Salvation is never ever based upon the flesh, ethnicity, that's a flat out denial of Grace and makes God a respecter of persons. Now strawman that !

@Davy Yes it does mean that, Its about Salvation, so it means God saved them because of their ethnicity. The seed of Israel to be saved is Spiritual Seed, so it cant be based on race. When its promised all Israel shall be saved, its Spiritual Israel like here Isa 45:17 17 But Israel shall be...

Okay then see my response !

So those Christ hath reconciled, God doesn't impute with sin, even though they sin! They are of these blessed ones spoken of here Rom 4:8 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. This applies to the world of God's Elect here 2 Cor 5:19!How we know that its Gods Elect? Because...

Salvation is never ever based upon the flesh, ethnicity, that's a flat out denial of Grace and makes God a respecter of persons. Now strawman that !

The World here are a mixture of jew and Gentile Elect! And a aspect of their reconciliation to God is God not imputing, charging or reckoning their sins, trespasses, iniquities unto them.

Who do you believe the 144000 are in Rev 7 ?