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  1. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Charles Spurgeon (one of the preeminent Reformed Baptist evangelists) never gave a speech advocating “our sanctification is to wallow in sexual immorality.” … You are refuting an argument that NOBODY is making.
  2. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I quoted scripture verbatim as it appeared in the translation I was reading (NASB at that moment, I believe). I never rejected any biblical warnings about the dangers of “backsliding” (not a very scriptural word for someone claiming to care so much about what scripture actually says.) QED...
  3. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I do not ignore scripture … only insincere posts trolling for a reaction. Why do you make false accusations against the Saints?
  4. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    It must be a truly wondrous thing to reach the point in Christian growth where one can correct the Apostle John and even the Lord Jesus Himself when a direct quote from them and THEIR words disagrees with your opinions. I am in awe of your hubris. :(
  5. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Romans 3 … but don’t let me distract you. Let’s see how high it will pile before it collapses under the weight of reality.
  6. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    You need to work harder at not talking down to people like a condescending ass, if you are to have any expectation of getting a them to listen. Ephesians 2:10 … where in the salvation process do good works come? Here are some hints: (created by God in advance) (for us to WALK in them) (we...
  7. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Who is this person? I have never met them. I know many people that claim to “be saved” and claim to “know God” and claim to “have faith” yet I could not testify to those facts in a court of law … I saw NOTHING that I could offer testimony to support THEIR claims. I have also met people that...
  8. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    To cease smoking (get saved) is the easiest thing I ever did. I ought to know because I’ve done it a thousand times. That is NOT the Reformed view of salvation, but it appears to fit the “put it on and take it off at human whim” model of being “born from above” (John 3:3), “transformed” (Romans...
  9. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Ad hominem: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect; marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made. - Merriam Webster Dictionary Ad hominem (Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing...
  10. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    A troll complains that you will not answer their questions, and then immediately responds to your answer by calling you a liar from 300 posts earlier. [Luke 6:44] "For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush.
  11. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    The troll has spoken, and as usual … tells lies. :cool: John 10:25-29 [NASB] Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father's name, these testify of Me. "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep. "My sheep listen to My voice, and I...
  12. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    So much for discussion. Now it is not unintentional … Kiss my grits.
  13. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I cannot fully explain all of the subtly in 1 Peter 2, however it is hard to imagine “false teachers” as described by Peter having been saved and then lost … they sound more like wolves in sheep clothing seeking to devour the flock. “20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the...
  14. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Hebrews 6:1-8 (NASB) Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and about the resurrection of the dead and...
  15. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I am going to do what no “good debater” would ever do. I am going to actually admit that there are some verses of scripture that I have more trouble fitting together with the BIG PICTURE than others. One place is the “in your face” statement from Paul that Abraham was not justified by works...
  16. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    First a nit to pick: “wresting Scripture from what is written” is not really stated or implied in Romans 1 and feels (I could be mistaken) a bit like a cheap shot implying those who interpret the Word of God different from you are not being faithful to the Word … a shade of grey on the road to...
  17. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    A comment on “the view from 10 thousand feet” (ie. big picture, broad brush, overview of topic): I agree that scripture clearly teaches that we can only come to Jesus if God the Father draws us to Him. There are those that believe God draws everyone, but I do not believe that the CONTEXT in...
  18. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    First, I will respond to everything in your post … I am just responding “section by section” to avoid generating a wall of text that is impossible for you to respond back to in any sort of meaningful conversation. So keep these two things in mind with my responses … I READ ALL of your post and...