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I understand scripture just fine, just that scripture doesn't can't and won't speak to me from the tradition of men. If I can't back up what one says with SCRIPTURE, it means not a hill of beans to me . Again ,what do I need outside of scripture ,which is His Word, not mans ?

Is that not in scripture ?If not it means nothing to me. We sit on these forums and talk scripture ,we debate scripture . What is the edification in talking or debating doctrines of men ? Id rather not understand scripture than to try an understand traditions of men.

First ,I think we should ask ourselves , why did He hate Esau Next, how and or what makes one an Elect ?

HISTORY OF RELIGION (Part 62): UNDERSTANDING THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH - YouTube

@ theefaith What more do we need other than scripture (Bible alone)?

Really need to understand who Israel is

Again , that's pagan , I really feel you all do Mary dis-service The pagan system of sun worship had three main aspects: the father, mother, and the son. In ancient Chaldean times, these were the god Bel or Merodach, Ninus the son who was also worshiped as Tammuz, and the female goddess Rhea...

Thanks ,however the commentary was not mine ,the source is below . psalms16

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That's exactly what happened , the question should be where was He for those 3 days. It was written that Christ flesh would not see corruption Psalms 16:9 "Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: My flesh also shall rest in hope." This is Jesus speaking; that tabernacle of flesh...

Ezekiel 38:7 "Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them." This is a message from God to Russia and all the nations and peoples that support her. "Be thou prepared", get ready, for it is God that will teach them a...

Like I repeat often , man was never meant to be made flesh , had satan not rebelled we would not have been . Let's go to Job to get an idea of when our souls were created Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding." Job 38:7...

To me It's like , you'll have the same concept of the pagans , like placing more on the mother to the point of worship HISTORY OF RELIGION (Part 1)- PAGANS, NIMROD, & BABYLON - Bing video

Ezekiel 38 :18 is when Russia attacks America . Revelation 19 is that same battle . Two battles will be happening at the same time This starts the Day of the Lord, ie, the millennium . There is no rapture in between.

For me it goes way before Adam ,like in the reason man was made flesh. They were chosen for what they did during the rebellion of satan , then known as lucifer

That's paganism HISTORY OF RELIGION (Part 62): UNDERSTANDING THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH - YouTube

The elect were found justified in the age before this one .They were chosen to do God's will after the rebellion of satan , the reason why man had to be made flesh . It's like they don't have freewill , as they have been judged already

All of God's people are not of the Elect.

How does one get saved without the Holy Spirit ?

When were they chosen and why?