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  1. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    In the framework of making disciples....I used to use this little story. A young man went to China to learn martial arts and found the best master he could find...and asked him...how long will it take to make me as good as you are in the art? The master replied, 10 years. Perplexed, the young...
  2. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    That's why I exhort those who have had a beginning in Christ to now go to Him for the whole measure...the finishing. Many nowadays will just assume and presume that going to God to purchase the full measure of grace is not necessary...using what one already has to try finishing their own...
  3. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    I think a spiritual man would not make someone think that he is liberal leaning one day, and conservative leaning another day. It can look like a mix, I suppose. A Conservative will see a spiritual man as liberal or inclusive. A Liberal type person could see a spiritual man as being more...
  4. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Jesus Christ is the foundation ...not us or even Christ in us. Our treasure is to be in heaven...not here. The reason why people build with unauthorized materials is because they think they are free to build as they see fit....from themselves. Wood can even seem solid. But human reasoning has...
  5. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Too busy casting down imaginations you mean. Before one can build on a solid foundation, all the wood, hay and stubble shacks need to be torn down. It's too bad you identify with the part that needs to go to the cross. Preserving what God would cut apart. Think Agag.
  6. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    LOL I'm not the snowflake here. And try not to be resentful of my brotherly correction. The full measure of grace costs us everything. And we know we have made the purchase when we are translated into the heavenly empowered walk. To walk as Jesus walked. That becomes our testimony. But to name...
  7. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Claiming what you want...like in a cafeteria. Any amount of reading skills and honesty will reveal that ADC did that very thing. So the false accusation is from yourself and a delusion that says one thing and does another. You don't believe them. Blind, and naked Jesus says. And you will...
  8. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Claiming righteousness for oneself. I know that there are many here who are afraid to admit how they see themselves. Naming and claiming righteousness for themselves. No such honesty among those who claim and then deny it where that is more convenient. But here is an example of a namer and...
  9. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    I claim that correction is only seen as being judgmental by those who still love their own rebellious ways.
  10. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Worldly people will never find the balance between Liberalism and Conservatism...unless it is forced upon them. A Christian is to be neither liberal or conservative but rather be spiritual in Christ.
  11. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    God is on a level all His own. Good catch! But you claim to have God's own righteousness for yourself...based on an introspective bible reading??? Is that from humility? Or that all bible enthusists have that level of righteousness? A clever mimicking of Paul's words doesn't equal being an...
  12. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    In a two-dimensional world you would have a point. For you it is...believer good, unbeliever bad. But that kind of reasoning comes from the knowledge of good and evil....2 dimensional. The Pharisees had the very same outlook. Good and bad. They of course identifying themselves with the good. Do...
  13. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    More than one dimension you mean?? I think you hate the idea that there are levels to both salvation AND righteousness. You make God to be a black and white dogmatic judge the way religious people are...like yourself. But God's ways are BOTH mercy and truth. So you do God a disservice by...
  14. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Another thing that most people get confused about is the exclusivity of the holiness walk in the Spirit....and the universal inclusivity of God's mercy on the poor, the humble, the meek, the lowly...etc. And this comes down to having a 2 dimensional dogmatic view of salvation and even of God...
  15. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Such as??? What you call "untruths" are deeper truths you have yet to consider. Don't judge from yourself. You still haven't understood the necessity of being crucified in the outer man...or else one can become more puffed up than ever through the experience of the second blessing. Paul spent...
  16. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    If someones says that they are a follower of Christ...fine...people can follow Christ from any number of distances. But if someone says that they abide in Christ, then they will be judged by a much harder standard. What we say is important. We will either be justified or condemned by our words...
  17. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    The "come up higher" is in the higher walk of the Spirit that Paul testifies of. When we walk at that level of consecration THEN we can experience what Paul speaks of....to be seated in heavenly places in Christ. No naming and claiming is permitted. IF we walk as Jesus walked THEN we can claim...
  18. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    How does a person with a conservative bent climb out of the ditch of iniquity? The only way to steer a balanced course that keeps on the level...on the path that leads to life...is by faith. Not religious certainty. Not dogmatic beliefs. Why faith? Faith believes that God's way is the only...
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    Making Disciples

    That's not how discipleship works. Repentance comes first...or at least an open mind. Otherwise we are dealing with the part of a person that needs to go to the cross. The cross is an execution device. How can that be seen as caring for one's soul? And yet, once a person experiences the cross...
  20. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    I'm dealing with unbelief mainly. How did Jesus treat those who thought they could see but were blind? It one thing to sit in a boat and discuss things, but quite another when the boat is tipped so far over to one side that there is no place to sit.