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All true, but nowhere in Scripture can you prove what you allege, that Satan was an angel of God until he rebelled against God and became Satan.

They put labels on people trying to make others believe you are a heretic and your doctrine coming from evil. If they can get others to see you as heretic that fills them with joy because they cannot abide by anyone having greater clarity of spiritual discernment, then themselves.

God does not spare the human messengers who lived in the days of Noah, who sinned, angels of God do not sin, they do God's bidding. These human messengers of God are still in the lowest abyss. They went there after death took them in the waters of the flood that covered the earth. And...

Where in Scripture does it say that the angels of God shall be locked up in the lowest part of hell? What did they do to be cast there? In Gen 6 God flooded the whole earth because God saw that wickedness of man, not angels was great on the earth. If it was angels that sinned why does God...

Look at the pot calling the kettle black! It is you displaying a heart filled with hatred and pride who continues to lash out because you have no biblical response. You show yourself a hypocrite! Matthew 7:3 (KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but...

Who did God lock up and reserve for judgment Scott? Spirit messengers or human messengers?

I was pretty sure this was why you treat TI with such vitriol! You are jealous of his spiritual understanding! Much jealousy has turned you and SI into....I can't even put into words how vicious you have both become.

Get used to it! Evasion is the MO for those who cannot offer a Biblical response. Evasion, and slander there is no end!

We know angels of God are spirits. The problem arises when believing that Satan is or was an angel of God until he rebelled against God and became the evil spirit called Satan. Here for instance: Revelation 9:11 (KJV) And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless...

LOL Don't worry about it, we are all over the place on this topic of angel spirits, and demonic spirits and who they belong to!

Truly, I believe what I believe because I have learned it from the Word of God. I do agree with TS on the FACT that Satan is NOT a fallen angel! Never was, because from the beginning he is, was, and always shall be the father of lies and a murderer. Abaddon and Apollyon are NOT angels...

They have to continue to deflect rather than answer what is actually said, because even they realize how futile it is to argue against the Word of God!

Apparently in proving that Satan is not a fallen angel of God before he rebelled against God interferes with some pet doctrine he holds. He won't accept truth because he would then have to admit and adopt all 5 doctrines of Sovereign grace called TULIP that his much pride refuses to allow.

Once again refusing to address what was said, and instead accusing, attacking, mischaracterizing! You are being very dishonorable/dishonest and I for one have lost respect for you. I fear much learning has made you arrogant and puffed up! It's really very sad for me to be saying this!

Good, the point I continue to argue is the belief the Bible tells us that Satan is NOT, and never has been a spirit messenger (angel) of God, who rebelled against God and became an evil spirit messenger with a myriad of titles that define his evil character. When one has a proper understanding...

The judgment is future, but the place of the DEAD was then and now. Before the advent of Christ the Old Covenant people believed the grave was divided, one part being the common grave where all the dead in unbelief go. That is where the rich man was carried by the angels after he died. The...

The sons of God are human not spirit. When the sons of God present themselves before the LORD it is as Christians since Christ also present themselves before the LORD. Where three or more are gathered together in the name of God evil messengers are also there.

Scott, I find nowhere in Scripture where mortal hybrids of angels and women existed. In fact the Bible seems to indicate that angels (spirit messengers of God) do not procreate. Mark 12:25 (KJV) For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are...

What about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man? The eternal fire was created for Satan and his messengers, both spirit and human messengers.

A spirit entering into human hearts and minds of A&E.