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  1. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    I think you're typing out of your anus. ;) I think you'll find that should be Arius, not Anus. :Laughingoutloud:
  2. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    What do you mean by the "other" Paul? :confused: This means that sin and death for everyone came from (originated, or resulted from the actions of) one man, Adam, Romans 5:12 (WEB): (12) Therefore as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; so death passed to all...
  3. keithr

    What Are we Getting Saved From?

    Okay, so why do you think God created the earth, all life on earth, and mankind? I don't believe that God created man just to be gardeners to keep the earth looking good.
  4. keithr

    What Are we Getting Saved From?

    As others have replied, we are saved from death, which is God's penalty for sin. It's all summarised by Paul in Romans 6:23 (WEB): (23) For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. I think God created us (and the angels) for His good...
  5. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    :IDK: All this bickering just because I simply asked, "Please give Bible references to back up that claim" (post #652). Please let's stop the bickering! :p Yep, it is! And yet I had to ask for Bible references. :) Well I asked for references that would back up your claim, but the references...
  6. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    Correction - the answer is three. Jesus, Adam and Eve. What you said was ridiculous, and what I said was not ridiculous, was to give Bible references to back up or confirm what you claim. Hence I said, "If you want to convince anybody that what you are saying is the correct interpretation of...
  7. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    No! The answer is one - Jesus! That doesn't say that Jesus was never not in existence, it just says he was in existence before Abraham was born. Again, that doesn't say that Jesus was never not in existence, it just says he was in existence before the creation of the Earth. So I'm afraid you...
  8. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    God was involved because Jesus did not have a human father. Please give Bible references to back up that claim. Proverbs 8:22-31, applied to Jesus, tells us of Jesus' beginning (WEB): (22) “Yahweh possessed me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old. (23) I was set up from...
  9. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    If the "frame of reference" is "Jesus being raised bodily", how is it changing the "frame of reference" if I ask you for Bible references for where it says Jesus was raised bodily?
  10. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    Well you asked me where it states that Jesus was resurrected with a spirit nature, so I asked where it states that Jesus was resurrected with a human nature. That's not changing the frame of reference. You didn't answer my question, so I'll answer yours. 1 John 3:2 says that after our...
  11. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    And on many of those occasions he would appear and disappear out of and into thin air, or have a different physical appearance so that they didn't recognise him, e.g. : Luke 24:31 (WEB): (31) Their eyes were opened, and they recognized him, and he vanished out of their sight. Luke 24:35-36...
  12. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    :IDK: As I said, "I've said enough on this subject". Just repeating over and over what you've already posted is not helpful. It makes me think that you didn't take any notice of some verses I quoted in post #1769: 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (WEB): (3) If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn’t...
  13. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    From the Cambridge Bible Notes for Luke 3:7 - broods of vipers "described the venomous hypocrisy which turned religion itself into a vice, and hid a deadly malice under the glittering semblance of a zeal for orthodoxy. But let it be borne in mind that only teachers of transcendent holiness, and...
  14. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    From the Online Bible Greek Lexicon, aion "is usually better expressed by age, it is the world at a given time, a particular period in the world’s history". From the beginning of the ages/worlds, or the beginning of God's creation.
  15. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    The following post was posted before I started posting on Christianity Board, but many current posters would benefit from reading it - A Call for Calm.
  16. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    In return I will ask, what verse says that Jesus was resurrected as a human? Jesus is in heaven, sat at the right hand of God, and no human can exist in heaven. As the apostle Paul said, in 1 Corinthians 15 (WEB): (50) Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood can’t inherit God’s...
  17. keithr

    "The word was a god"?

    You're digressing again! Yes, I believe what Peter said. Yes, I do. You're wrong. I do believe what Jesus said. He was a man - he had been from his human birth right up until his death. Since his resurrection he has not been a man; he is now a spirit being having the same divine nature...
  18. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    That has been covered earlier in this thread/discussion (see A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians - post #230), so I won't go over that again. John also didn't write "Jesus is the Christ, and is God". Why didn't he write that if that is what he believed? Could it be that your assumption is...
  19. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I like your post, but who was/is Martin?
  20. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    John did not believe that Jesus was God. He clearly states, John 20:31 (WEB): (31) but these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name. Being a son of God does not make you God. Even Satan was a son of God...