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  1. Wick Stick

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    I don't find this particularly troubling. All of the statements affirmed here are true. Perhaps they don't constitute Trinitarianism, but being true is enough for me. Do we really need some kind of -ism with which to exclude each other? Again, this doesn't seem like a pressing problem...
  2. Wick Stick

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Are you going to include in your studies the controversies that led to the synods? I do not believe that popes (or emperors) have a legitimate power of excommunication. At any rate, there are a dozen or more Orthodox churches that continue existing to this day, despite having been...
  3. Wick Stick

    The problem with "Free Palestine"

    Gen 10:13-14 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, and Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. Philistine and Palestine are the same word. The Philistines clearly exist as a people in the Bible. You're right on this one - the people...
  4. Wick Stick

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    What exactly do you want to be taught? You say 'historical orthodox trinitarianism' as if the doctrine of the trinity was well-agreed on in the past. It wasn't. It's been a point of disagreement and contention basically always. The capital-O Orthodox position is perhaps the best - that it's...
  5. Wick Stick

    The view of the "Gentleman God" who honors human will above His own.

    Yes and no. There's a set of generic expectations and then there are specific ones. We're all meant to love our neighbor, but we aren't all meant to go preach in Damascus.
  6. Wick Stick

    The view of the "Gentleman God" who honors human will above His own.

    I think it's a question of collective purpose versus individual. An individual can prioritize their individual goals over that of the group, certainly. It turns out that isn't best for the group OR the individual, but it happens often enough.
  7. Wick Stick

    Yahweh or Jehovah?

    My post was sarcasm. That's what the "/s" at the end means. Apparently that shorthand isn't well-known here. :sweatsmile:
  8. Wick Stick

    Yahweh or Jehovah?

    Yup. A little flatbread with babaganoush.
  9. Wick Stick

    Yahweh or Jehovah?

    You mean Yeshua? /s
  10. Wick Stick

    Was religion created to meet a human need?

    A cynic might say that religion was created as a way of controlling other people. I'm not sure the cynic is always wrong, but hopefully he's wrong at least some of the time.
  11. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Agreed. I think Romans 5 uses the metaphorical sense of dead - where one is outside the covenant.
  12. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    A lot depends on context. The Bible uses "dead" in a figurative sense as well as the literal one. Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
  13. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Nekros (the dead) most literally means corpses. When King Jimmy had his translation done, they made some PG-13 decisions. It could have been much more colorful. A friend used to say, "if you think about it long enough, every movie is a zombie movie." Apparently, that also applies to the Bible.
  14. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    They didn't get it wrong here. The translation is correct - the English active voice is used to translate Greek active voice. The issue is just that English is less precise than Greek. It doesn't have a middle voice for its verbs like Greek. So it's impossible to tell by looking at English...
  15. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Others don't necessarily have to reject Damnationism (real word?) or Annihilationism to hear. They just need to not be dogmatically entrenched in one of those positions. Personally, I find Universalism attractive, and Damnationism repugnant-but-defensible. The most likely position IMO is a...
  16. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    His argument seems to be founded on grammar, rather than a source. If it was as he says, the verb should be in the middle voice, rather than active. https://daedalus.umkc.edu/FirstGreekBook/JWW_FGB5.html#:~:text=The%20Greek%20verb%20has%20three,somehow%20concerned%20with%20the%20action.
  17. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    It's likely that 1st century Jews viewed it literally. In the Book of 1Enoch, Enoch is shown a place where the deceased martyrs dwell, awaiting their resurrection. Enoch sees them crying out to God for justice for their murders, and in particular the voice of Abel cries out. The 5th seal in...
  18. Wick Stick

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    You're putting an awful lot of weight on 1 or 2 words from a single verse. What do you do with Enoch and Elijah? They didn't "ascend" to heaven under their own power, but they were "taken" there.
  19. Wick Stick

    Take A Stand - Stand to gain, or stand to lose?

    This is relatable. The best parts of church are the singing, and the before-and-after-service where you talk with people and perhaps go out to lunch. The sermon... most often that's an exercise in biting one's tongue.
  20. Wick Stick

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Orange County? I don't know, man. SoCal is kinda depraved