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Nope. As I have proven, nothing changed after Augustine. BTW...Augustine was 1 of many voices (theologians) that The Church respected. He didn't take charge of The Church. If he did ALL of his theological ideas would have been implented....but they weren't. It's been fun debating with you. Let...

For all those that are interested the early church baptized babies because “He [Jesus] came to save all through himself; all, I say, who through him are reborn in God: infants, and children, and youths, and old men. Therefore he passed through every age, becoming an infant for infants...

I agree. You came up with a new idea that was opposite of what Scripture and the ECF's taught.

As the ECF's stated The Church baptized babies to wash away their (original) sin. Previously you said, "For me what works is the teachings of the Apostles and the Early Church Fathers. If we can't trust them....I don't know who we can trust." NOW you don't trust them? Who can we trust GG? Your...

Amazing. I quoted the ECF's that proved your theory wrong but you still can't accept it.

Romans 5:12-19

Ummmm.....You have me sooooo confused right now. Your original point was that The Church changed the reason for baptizing infants AFTER Augustine. I proved you wrong. NOW you want to talk about original sin. I just can't keep up with you GG.... I will get back with you. Got some things to...

Thanks GG. In regards to what Irenaeus wrote: “He [Jesus] came to save all through himself; all, I say, who through him are reborn in God: infants, and children, and youths, and old men. Therefore he passed through every age, becoming an infant for infants, sanctifying infants... Baptism, thru...

YES, I do: 24 Then they prayed and said, ‘Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.’ 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias...

Fides aliena is the parent's faith/belief is passed to the infant.

Well, clearly you aren't talking about fides aliena. So what is your theory on The Church changing it's reason for infant baptism after Augustine?

The Apostles didn't quibble with it, but you do.....very interesting. :IDK:

Thank you GG. I agree, I didn't understand your posts very well because you were saying different things in different posts. THIS POST clears up your theory on infant baptism before and after Augustine. From the beginning The Church baptized babies because Christ said BAPTIZE ALL, so they did...

Hey RedFan, In your first sentence you say that you know the history of the church but by the end of your post you ask a question that indicates you don't know the history of the church. The short answer to your question is Peter was the bishop of Rome and he was the head of The Church after...

No, not like Evodius of Antioch. Peter was probably the bishop (head of) the church in Antioch. Evodius was ordained by Peter and took over the duties of bishop in Antioch. Peter then moved on to evangelize in other places and ordain more men. Jesus was head of The Church and of the Apostles...

Ah, I get it now. You were not telling me that I read the reports. You were telling me to read the reports for myself. That's the funny thing about the English language. One word can mean 2 different things. It is up to the person who delivers the message to make sure the message is clear. But...

I am late to the party on this one, but I suspect that @BreadOfLife or @Jude Thaddeus has already brought up what happened at the Council of Jerusalem? When they voted to replace Judas. They used Psalm to guide them into their decision; when an office is vacated another shall take his place...

You don't know what it has to do with anything? Well, it has to do with the inconsistency of what you said THEN compared to what you are saying now! GG THEN: It became acceptable everywhere and common practice after Augustine......Infant baptism became common practice after Augustine.....even...

Very presumptive of you. No, I haven't read the reports myself. You brought it up so I thought I would ask Once again, another accusation with no evidence to back it up. Seems common on this forum....

Which means you are Protestant. Already done....post 1,542.