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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Since the Greek word "genea" (generation), is derived from the Greek word "genos" it's not a stretch, nor improbable that when Christ said, "this generation" He was speaking of all the seeds of Abraham, called Israel. Abraham's generation, offspring, kin, country men, same stock, both...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    You seem to be reading your bias for your doctrine into this and many other texts of Scripture rather than allowing the Scripture to inform your doctrine. 1 Peter 4:1-7 (KJV) Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Your argument is against that which is plainly written in the Bible! I gave you supporting text, but sadly, in order for you to continue to espouse your unbiblical doctrine (Preterist) you refuse to receive the truth from the Word of God!
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    What's the difference? No longer delay is really no different than time no longer. When will this be? With the sounding of the seventh trumpet, the mystery of God finished, as declared through His servants the prophets from the beginning. Revelation 10:5-6 (KJV) And the angel which I saw...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Speaking to the disciples with Him, Christ did NOT tell them His visible coming would be visibly observed by them. Read and accept the words Christ spoke to them of His coming that THEY not YE "shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Matthew...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Because Christ shall return when the seventh/last trumpet sounds, and not before. Since the last trumpet did not sound the arrival of Christ coming in the clouds in the first century, and in fact the final trumpet still has not yet sounded, that which was near/soon to come to pass cannot be the...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yes, for now, only the spirit within faithful man, through the Spirit of Christ in us posses eternal life. Even though our flesh is destined to die, when we are indwelt with the Spirit of Christ our spirit is justified/made righteous in Christ before God forever.
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Exactly! And only the body of Christ was resurrected immortal to never die again. The Old Covenant saints coming out of the graves could not have been physical like the immortal body of Christ. They would not receive immortality & incorruptibility physically until the seventh/last trumpet...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The question is what exactly does the vision show was shortly/near in the days of John? I know as a Preterist you will not agree, but it could not have been the coming of Christ as described from the Mount of Olives!
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    NO IT DOES NOT! This is what you must read into the verse. Prove, if you can, what you allege through the Scriptures!
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    This is true! However, you greatly err trying to apply the words Christ spoke from the Mt of Olives to these first century saints alone! The discourse was spoken to them, and they were given a mandate to tell people from every nation of the earth the Gospel as well as all they had witnessed...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Where do we read these Old Covenant faithful saints who were in the graves were BODILY resurrected, and went into the streets of JERUSALEM? The text says simply that graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints came out of the graves and went into the HOLY CITY, Matthew 27:52-53 (KJV)...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The problem for Preterists is the same as that of Christian Zionists dispensationalism. Being consumed with Israel of Old they fail to understand the Kingdom of Old that was a literal physical Kingdom of God is changed through Christ into a spiritual Kingdom of God that Christ ushered in when...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I agree, Christ warns the first century Jewish disciples of things that would come to them. Are these words spoken to them of no value for all of Christ's disciples to come? Are the things written of Old and the discourse not meant to be an example for the whole church? But notice when...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Bodily and visibly are not in question! What is in question is the difference Scriptures shows us between a few disciples of Christ seeing His ascension to heaven, and every eye seeing Him descending from heaven.
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I don't ignore the truth that Christ was literally speaking to His first century disciples of things that would come upon them. I simply don't limit Christ's words to them alone as Preterists attempt to. The words Christ spoke from the Mount of Olives in the first century AD is written of...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Their eyes were opened to the consequences of their transgression against God in the day they disobeyed. From that very moment during the time in which they lived they understood how being dead in trespasses and sins is a death sentence for them. As long as they lived, they were dead to God...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I know I will see Him when He comes again! If I am still physically alive when Christ comes again, I will see His appearing in the clouds. If I have physically died, I will see Him when He calls for me to meet Him in the air at His coming. We shall ALL see Him when we are ALL called to stand...