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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I see nothing to support that in Scripture. What is more, there is no mention in the text of some imaginary future millennium. You have to force it into the text. Also, you still haven't told us when did/does the last days begin? When did/does the last days end? When is "the last day"? What...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Most Amils here were Premil. I have seen a major shift among younger believers over the years.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    It you want to know the Amil position, and main objections with Premil, this might help. I have accumulated this after years of research and discussions. I started my research as a Premil in 2000. After 6 months I changed. I could not corroborate any Premil tenet...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    What? You are NOT the Son of man or the Holy Spirit.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    LOL. You are describing your own heresy of denying the future physical second coming.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Hey Trevor, Thanks for your thoughts! Isaiah 2:2-4 says, speaking of the Lord’s first Advent, “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Keep your thoughts / questions coming. They are great!
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Jesus said in Matthew 25:6,10-13, “at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him … and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Spot on! Well put! When is the fulness of the Gentiles come in? When Christ returns. Manifestly, Israel are not all blinded; a remnant will continue to believe (as they always have). The engrafting isn't restricted to an end-time mass repentance by the whole nation (prior to the Lord's coming)...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    My apologies for taking it for granted you knew what Dispensationalism is. But basically, Jews come to salvation throughout this current period to whatever degree. This is the only day of salvation. When Jesus comes the door is closed.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Are you denying that there is such a thing as races? What is your nationality? Do you have any citizenship in any earthly country? Do you carry a passport? Do you belong to a particular race?
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Are you saying that the DNA of the offspring of Jacob and his wives and concubines were the exact same as the DNA of the offspring of Esau and his wives? God blesses and curses certain unique natural lineage.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    I'm noticing that you are avoiding a lot of very basic questions. Why is that? Are you denying that there is such a thing as races? What is your nationality? Do you have any citizenship in any earthly country? Do you carry a passport? Do you belong to a particular race?
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    There is no difference spiritually today amongst the redeemed, but that does not negate our natural unique nationalities.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Are you denying that there is such a thing as races or are you denying that there is such a thing as the Jewish race?
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Romans 11:7-10 demonstrates, “What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;)...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    God’s heart and design for Old Testament Israel from the start was that they would glorify His name, be obedient unto His voice, and be a testimony to the nations. His desire was that they would be a holy nation, a special treasure, a kingdom of priests, a light to the Gentiles, and living...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    ... in your opinion. But throughout the OT (as the NT) the natural always came before the spiritual. This dynamic of Jacob and Israel fits in with that. Hebrew blood, the promises to Abraham, are embodied in the creation of Israel. After Jacob’s encounter with God at Peniel, his name was...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why are you promoting Isaiah 2 as a future millennium when you do not have a clue when "the last days" began, when they end, and when "the last day" is? It seems like you are just repeating what you have been taught. The objective Bible student should be cognizant of the contrast between “the...