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As usual, your ignorance of the scriptures and the flawed translations that you rely on are still misleading you into error in your pronouncements. Oh well, at least you are trying to us.

I cannot see the difference between the saucepan and the pot, they both live in a dark place where light only shines when the door is opened to take them out so that they can be used.

"Mountains" is a metaphor for "religions." "Woman" is a metaphor for the "peoples of the earth" who should be worshipping Christ. A lack of understanding takes people down rabbit holes that only led to one place and they willing accept becoming a candidate to that lake.

No.

I have no need to ponder such a question as that.

When you actually understand what I am suggesting, then it might be time for us to have a conversation. Goodbye

What if both the OT and NT passages support each other then which is the shadow and which trumps the other?

My request for you to show with scripture why I was in error for my statement that the Beasts and the Little horn are wicked fallen heavenly hosts still stands. If you are not willing to provide your defence of why you believe that I am in error, then we will let the matter rest and I will walk...

I agree.

Yes, you are right the same word Seismos is found in this passage, but because of the translation error the quoted passage should actually read in this manner, Acts 16:25027: - 25 But at midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them. 26...

No, it is not guesswork, my understanding comes from an OT prophecy which mirrors the Armageddon judgement mention in Rev 16:12-16. I have referenced it many times on this forum, but people want to just ignore it. The verses are Isaiah 24:21-22. It talks of the judgement of the heavenly hosts...

When you provide the evidence that I am actually wrong, then we will see where we go from there.

Douggg, your perspective is full of holes that leak because of your private interpretations.

No. you did not disprove my understanding at all. All you did was present what you hoped was what the scriptures stated. I was not been challenged by what you had posted. If anything your post only confirmed what I hold to be the truth.

No douggg, that is your present understanding. What you have presented in your chronological order of these events is in the order that John saw them, but since he was walking from the distant future towards the present time, the reverse order is the way the vials, as you call them, will play...

I am only suggesting that G:4578 has been translated wrongly and that my suggested wording should be taken literally. Turmoil fits much better than earthquake.

Douggg, your question requires fleshing out some more on your part before anyone can answer it for you. Here are dates that I associate with the seventh bowl judgement: - Revelation 16:17-21: - 17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple...

You are welcome to hold to your private interpretation. This understanding in my opinion is flawed and leads to delusion.

You are funny ROFL

Douggg, if what you have stated is true then the Hebrew root word G-4579 which is descriptive of an actual earthquake would have been found in Rev 16:17-21. Since G:4579 has not been found in this passage, the translation of the Greek words with the embedded Greek Root word G:4578 is describing...