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But are we not to seek holiness the SAME WAY we seek for forgiveness? Is there forgiveness WITHOUT holiness? Think about it. Which do you prefer? Barabbas or Jesus? That's the choice that God is giving us. It's not my invention. People will say that I'm making up a holiness standard...because...

You want to choose both Barabbas and Jesus? Of course...you want to compromise the truth. You want an assurance of amnesty... you want Jesus to die in your place...any human would. But you also don't disagree with the idea, the concept, the premise of sacrifice and holiness. That's what...

People love free stuff. Did Jesus pay for ALL your sins. Well, the bible doesn't say that. For you splitting hairs could be the difference between life and death. Not many understand spiritual things. When the Pharisees claimed to see...Jesus condemned them. Was He not splitting hairs? I ask...

A part of that mystery is why the people chose Barabbas rather than Jesus. People prefer amnesty and forgiveness to sacrifice and holiness. That's how God selects His people. We reveal ourselves by our choices.

If people love the truth, they listen to me.

Why do I sound so stern at times? Well, a poster here has suggested that I'm confronting immaturity and that I should go easy on people for their sake. But I disagree. The immature are still on the path of life....they maybe lag behind a little in understanding. But Jesus said "My sheep HEAR My...

You are unwilling to be hurt by the truth in your quest to be comforted by a lie. What sounds condescending to you is meant to snap you out of a flesh spiral. You are identifying with the wrong part of you. The outer man...who defends himself and has....guess what? ...self-interest. Instead...

Re: discernment The only way one self-interested person is going to correct another self-interested person is if that one breaks ranks and threatens their own self-interest. Of course my posts obliterate self-interest just like the bible does when properly read...and properly understood. So I...

Humanistic propaganda. You think I'm avoiding sanctification by speaking about holiness? :rolleyes: :ummm:

One thing that will NEVER be considered among the self-interested ones...is that God is holy and that is the purpose of the atonement. Old Slew-foot has them convinced they will never be holy...or that it will take a lifetime to do so. Does it take a lifetime to be forgiven? Of course not. And...

An indoctrinated mind is a scary thing. Delusional thinking is known by its departure from reality. I know that some who normally agree with you...based on self-interest, will see some of your posts as outlandish. Do you deny that Jesus is God too? Forgiveness from God is the same as...

You are out there in space...and show to all the folly of an indoctrinated mind. For you salvation is the ability to sin and get away with it. Good luck with that.

Like denying God's power over sin in the believer. Jesus doesn't buy up all our sins. He provides us with grace to overcome sin as He did. That's the gospel...to be saved FROM sin...not in sin. He came to take away (not cover up) the sins of the world. Grace overcomes sin. We get that power...

This truth goes directly against your indoctrination. Without blood there is no forgiveness of sins? No...We are to forgive one another 70x7...a small amount compared to God's mercy. Are we to be more forgiving than God is? No...without blood there is no FREEDOM (aphesis) from sin. A life for...

Either humble and contrite...or proud and self-assured. Where do you fit in?

Jesus didn't "pay" for people's sins. Sins are free. But Jesus always forgave sins...no need for the cross for that. Read the bible. And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy...

Eternal life is a kind of life...to walk as Jesus walked. Of course salvation is conditional. In your mind you have guaranteed a future life in heaven. But the bible has a lot of "ifs". When and if you read the bible again you will perhaps notice these. I am saying to seek the Lord and...

That's believe INTO Him. HAS eternal life...experiences His resurrection life....NOW! Don't confuse the gospel with an after-life religion. This is not Valhalla...but the kingdom of God. Seek first the kingdom....seek to die? No...seek the Lord and live.

These threads get locked because the flesh agenda comes to them to steal away sound doctrine. No apology necessary. No need to thank me.

When God sent Ananias of Damascus to lay hands on Saul/Paul, He never once said that either he or Paul's sins were forgiven. Maybe it's because neither of them had read the NT yet?...including Paul who wrote most of it...but probably didn't read it after. :rolleyes: Maybe God has a different...