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Malachi and Samuel are certainly good verses, but they're not the only ones in the scriptures. We need to include all 31,103 verses in order to develop our doctrine. Exod 32:9-14, 9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it [is] a stiffnecked people: 10 Now...

No. I believe: No trinity Jesus is the son of God, hence he is not God Jesus was born like Moses and all other humans, hence he did not exist from eternity except in God's mind (like all Christians) I just think of myself as a son of God. I think that is more than sufficient to live a...

I probably mixed you up with someone else. Sorry about that!

If that is true, I am neither a trinitarian nor a non-trinitarian. So what would I be then?

When the Greeks and Hellenized Jews brought there Greek philosophy with them to the early church. Paul warned Timothy about some who were preaching another Jesus. I believe he was speaking about those who said Jesus was God. He could very well have been speaking specifically about Philo, who...

I guess you have me all figured out. The thing I don't understand is why you bother reading anything I write. Clearly, to you, it is 100% error. Do you just enjoy belittling those who don't think exactly as yourself?

Sorry you had to reply to being called asinine by another believer. It would be nice if Christians could at least be civil with each other, regardless of different beliefs on certain points. Whether right or wrong, we don't have to call each other's beliefs asinine. It's God's goodness that...

"Definition of Figure of Speech A figure of speech is a word or phrase that is used in a non-literal way to create an effect. This effect may be rhetorical as in the deliberate arrangement of words to achieve something poetic, or imagery as in the use of language to suggest a visual picture or...

There's no maybe about it. I'm using logic which is exactly what the Gnostic denies They say there are mysteries that only the chosen or initiated ones can fathom. Of course, they themselves really can't fathom them, but they say that anyway. The Athenasian Creed's statement that there is a God...

God does use figures of speech throughout the scriptures. A figure of speech is used to emphasize something and, by its nature, does not describe reality. I have a wife. At the moment she is about 30 miles away from me. Clearly, we are not literally one flesh. The same applies to Jesus and God...

What could be a bigger change than God supposedly becoming flesh? You can't have it both ways.

"For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths." [Paul, 2 Timothy 4:3] Grace and peace to you, Rich...

I understand what you are saying, but I'm not suggesting anything other than the myth of three gods being one god. "So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God." The logos has a logical meaning (logos is where we get the word...

The Bible doesn't say in so many words that God lives on the moon either, but I want to believe he does. Whether or not it's actually in the scriptures matters not; it is what it it is. I trust you see my sarcasm here, but it is intended to make a point. Could it be God doesn't live on the moon...

Are you sure you want to stick with that? Let's look at John: John 4:22-24, 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father...

I wasn't suggesting that scripture is Plato-breathed. I was saying the the trinity is Plato-breathed. Do you know anything about Plato's "Theory of Forms?"

Which version do you use that has the words "God the Son?" You appear to base your entire doctrine on such a phrase. I just haven't seen it and I know it's not found anywhere in a Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek text. The only ancient source I know of that uses "God the Son" is the Athenasian Creed...

I'm not JW. Yes, when Jesus and God are kept in their proper positions, it is a different story, one which you do not know. I know your story but you don't know mine, so I don't see how you are in any position to comment on how the Bible reads with the understanding of Jesus actually being the...

As I recall, Jesus is said to have a God in about a half dozen places in the NT. Ephesians 1:3 comes to mind, but there are others. Maybe we should be worshiping that God. He must be even more powerful than YHWH. :) But, I guess it's easier to just ignore those verses and keep calling Jesus...

Got it! Thanks. Very good. Too often folks jump to conclusions as to what a word meant to the ancient Hebrews. They din't always mean the same thing as we in the modern West think they mean. It's nice to know there's someone who cares to make the effort to ascertain the true meaning of words...