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It is describing the JWs. They are deceived by Satan.

He is speaking the truth. I have nothing in common with your apostasy. Bye, bye. You are a deceiver. Jesus is Lord!!! He is God!

Thanks for that! What hogwash they hold. It is a waste trying to reason with them.

Are you a JW?

The only thing you have proved in this thread is that you are are out of your depth and that you have zero evidence foreign your claims.

LOL. I was asking about the early Church fathers, not Josephus. For info: Josephus was not an early father! You don't get it, do you? Also, I was not asking you. How about answering the questions I directed towards you that you have been carefully avoiding?

Bro, look at his responses. He is incapable of proving anything that he claims. It is all in his head. He is delusional. This is how he approaches Scripture as well. He makes it up as it goes. When his argument is expose the resorts to ad hominem and avoidance.

What are you talking about? Who said that? Your avoidance is only exposing the folly and ignorance of your argument. You have nothing. I predicted it. And guess what? You are proving it. You don't have a clue. You're totally out of your depth on this subject.

The first principle of evidence is: he who alleges must prove. You can prove nothing because what you are posting is all your imagination. Where are your actual literal historic quotes that show Theophilus believed Historic Premil? Give us them. Where are your actual literal historic quotes...

Here you go again. Where is your evidence that "Origen of the Alexandria school was excommunicated by the early Christian Church because teaching much of The Bible as just allegory"?

Can you show us which early fathers rejected the idea that the Church was true Israel and that Israel was really Israel?

You make a wild unsubstantiated bias statements, and you imagine that makes them facts. Lol. This is typical Premil historic evidence. It is ridiculous. It is non-existent. Where are your actual literal historic quotes that show Theophilus believed Historic Premil? Give us them. Where are your...

The reader can check this thread and see that you are full of noise. You have zero of historic weight to bring to the table. You are out of your depth. You do not have a clue on this subject.

What comes after the new heaven and new earth? What do we call that? Where is it in Scripture? Where will it occur?

What is going to be better in eternity that Revelation 21-22 lacks?

So there are 2 new heavens and new earths now? Please furnish us with all the scriptural references to your second perfect new heavens and new earth?

You are living in denial! Hello! Sin still exist! Sickness still exists! Decay still exists! Death still exist! The curse still exists! You are clearly denying reality! That is not a good place to live. Perfection is coming. Glorification is coming. Why you would not see that or want that is...

Amen! They are in love with a doctrine. It is a deceptive spirit. They do not want to talk about the cross or the second coming. They negate these. They divert everything to their imaginary invented coming of Jesus. That is the pivotal moment of history for them. They do not get it! You need...

You are obsessed with Titus and AD70. You have nothing to say about Christ's future return and the introduction of the NHNE. Get out of the past and get your eyes on Jesus. You are like a broken record.

Historic facts are stubborn things. He has nothing, apart from his ad hominem and avoidance. That is his MO. He is running from the evidence. He has brought zero facts to the table. No Premil has.