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I should have submitted to your viewpoints and judgment to begin with. Thanks for the love. I'll consult with you from now on before posting.

You win.

Perhaps you'll be satisfied now that you've succeeded in doing exactly what you accused me of. .

Or incessantly complain about it while refusing to move on. .

Confirming what?

No, it wasn't. You should really click on -Unwatch- at the top-right corner of the page.

The problem is actually much worse than the end product we're dealing with now. We (Christians) embraced perversion of the heterosexual kind in the mid-to-late '70s and '80s as we allowed the influences of the sexual revolution to enter the church. And by the '90s, the gender-bending movement...

Hey, I get it, Brother, That's why I started the thread. :)

I wasn't proposing exploration. Claiming that God is male and female seems less like a gray area to me and more like making God in our image. .

Percentage of American adults who identified as LGBTQ doubled between 2012 and 2021, from 3.5% to 7.1%, with Gen Z-specific coming in at 21%, and millennials, 10.5%. It's time to speak up. .

That's not fair, Ron. It's funny but not nice - lol. :cool: .

Who are you trying to convince: Me or you? I stated my reason for replying. God is not inter-sex. Sex is a part of His creation. God is not male and female. You are free to disagree, but don't diminish your credibility by pretending you don't want to discuss it if you can't help replying...

Sorry, but I can't let this go unchallenged. The Bible nowhere attributes biological sexuality to God. Christ is male by His own choosing. He has no female physiology. The nuances of the "image of God" are too intricate to go into here but they are not well-expressed by mere human anatomy, never...

That's not like you, Ron. :)

I'm not interested in being better than anyone. I'm sorry you can't hide me from yourself. Again, you could just stop addressing me. Unless you simply have to have the last word. .

Which is it going to be, Matthew, a police state or an anarchy? Pastors' sins don't lessen the need for pointing out sin. At times, yes, it does. All-or-nothing thinking doesn't solve problems. The past ignorances of "'merica" don't lessen the need for pointing out sin, either. .

You're contradicting yourself here. You say you don't care if people submit to your will, but then you say they need to submit to Christ and then you qualify that with your understanding of what submitting to Christ means. We've been over this, too. You conflate condemnation with warning and...

I've already addressed this with you several times. I believe this view oversimplifies the problem of perversion in society, and most especially in the church. We have clear counsel on handling this from the apostle Paul. I hate politics, myself. But policy is often required to manage people...

If you're looking for someone to agree that a conscious decision to pervert the biological nature of human sexuality is equivalent to fish without reason doing what comes naturally to them biologically, you'll have a hard row to hoe here, Matthew. .

You are entitled to your qualifications of the definition of sin/warning/condemnation but you should not allow yourself to become overwrought if you can't get others to conform to your views. .