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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    That makes my point, the world here is saved, no sin on them at all, thats saved. So its limited to the saved world.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Ron N Those Corinthians were already reconciled to God by the non imputation of sin and by the death of Christ Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 2 Cor 5:19 18 And all...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Is the Reason for Adoption ! The Death of the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished the reason for receiving the Spirit of Adoption. All for whom Christ died, He redeemed from the curse of the Law, solely by what He did, God made Him a curse for all whom He died Gal 3:13 13 Christ hath redeemed us...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    enoch111 People can only repent and believe after the Spirit of God in the Name of Christ and for His Sake applies the redemption of Christ which effects repentance and Faith or Gospel Obedience 1 Pet 1:2 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Christ applies the spiritual application as part of His saving a person. To say Christ doesnt apply Spiritual Salvation is saying He doesnt save from sin. He turns people away from their sins, in application Acts 3:26 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    If He paid the sin penalty for all mankind, why do some die in their sins ? So thats a contradiction. Again if we say someone Christ died for dies in their sins in unbelief anyway, then thats saying Christs death in and of itself saved absolutely no one which is unbelief.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    You deny that Christs death saves from the penalty of sin, you seem very unknowledgeable in the things of God in Christ, thats unbelief friend.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Ronald N So mans salvation depends on him, thats works. See Christ in actuality conveys His Salvation to them He died for, meaning He applies it to them ! You have people Christ died for being still lost forever, thats so dishonoring to Christ the Saviour, may He give you repentance !
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    It makes us free from sin ! Jn 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. All for whom Christ died are made free from sin, from being a servant of sin Jn 8:34-35 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    rightglory Its with statements like this, its very obvious you are a stranger to the redemptive death of the lord Jesus Christ for His People, and you dont believe in Him, for its written Heb 9:12 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    What it is still is you are in unbelief and exalt man in salvation and you can't help it.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    The world of In 3:16 is the elect , a world loved and chosen in Christ. It's not the world Jesus did not pray for Jn 17:9
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You wiggled out of it. May as well move on
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    What it boils down to, you like all other religionists, condition Salvation on man, what the man does, which makes you in unbelief.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    You jumping all over. You have a saved world 2 Cor 5:19 and a condemned world 1 Cor 11:32. Christ died for the saved world but not the condemned world. Remember Jesus said I pray not for the world Jn 17:9 well thats the condemned world that He didntLove, and didnt die for.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    That world is saved, no sins charged to it. So thats the elect world, since the non elect world is condemned 1 Cor 11:32 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    The reason why some people are saved from the power of sin, is because Christ saved them from the penalty of sin. One cant be saved from the power of sin and yet not saved from the penalty of sin. The penalty of sin is death, death is a power. Rom 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    rightglory So you dont believe He saved everyone from the penalty of sin, which is death Rom 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. You really dont believe Christ saved from the power of sin because thats what unbelief is...