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  1. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    This is a quote from an atheist philosopher - What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires - desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the...
  2. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Holy Spirit does - Joh 16:13 - When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. Joh 16:14 - He will glorify me, for he will take what...
  3. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Thanks Johann :grinning:
  4. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Okay, thank you, saw your other post, curious to learn.
  5. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    This is the Greek - Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God Θεόν (Theon), and the Word was God Θεόν (Theon) Same word used for God twice, there is no "was a god" as in your Bible. But it's better we ask some knowledgeable here like @Johann or @marks for a...
  6. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. Slightly...
  7. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    John 1:1 - JW translation In the beginning was the Word,+ and the Word was with God,+ and the Word was a god. In all other translations - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. That's pretty fundamental, softly speaking.
  8. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God! [New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (2013 Revision)] In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God! [New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (1984 Edition)] In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God! [New World...
  9. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The phrase the seven Spirits of God is mentioned 4 times in Revelation. And in this thread of more than 3000 posts we can not even agree on 3. Maybe things are above our understanding?
  10. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Joh 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Does that count ?
  11. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Amen to that :csm And as for additions, in the OT only specific persons received the Holy Spirit, the prophets, David, Moses etc. In the NT -- by the Grace of God and the work of Christ -- the Holy Spirit is for everyone who wants to believe.
  12. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    So who then is this Jesus according to you? 1. He existed before the creation of human kind, He came down from heaven (leaving the glory that He had with the Father John 17:5) to live the human life, die for the sins of the world as the blameless lamb without sin, is given all power in heaven...
  13. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Read the whole Psalm 51, it states - A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet went to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. David committed a terrible crime and Psalm 51 is his confession, repentance and a supplication for restoration. He was well aware God could take His Holy Spirit from...
  14. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I will. Don't know where to start but allow me to begin here, the part I colored red. 1. The OT had many prophets who spoke the words directly given by God, they had the indwelling Holy Spirit, else it's impossible to predict future events, like speaking about Jesus to come. Suggestion, read...
  15. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Premise - Paul quoting OT Scripture not mentioning the Holy Spirit. Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable...
  16. ProDeo

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Premise - person X doesn't mention that he is born again. Fallacy - person X is not born again.
  17. ProDeo

    Harmful Doctrines Part 2

    I think that one day we should have a good discussion about holiness and what it means. We are not gods and never will become gods, do you have Scripture to offer for your statements? We are not into Mormonism, are we ?
  18. ProDeo

    Harmful Doctrines Part 2

    2 Cor 5:9 - So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. [ESV] 2 Cor 5:9 - Wherefore also we are ambitious, whether at home or away from home, to be well pleasing to him, [YLT] 2 Cor 5:9 - Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him...
  19. ProDeo

    Who Created God

    God is uncreated, simple. I remember a YouTube video, the high priest of atheism (Richard Dawkins) was interviewed about the existence of the universe and life by a knowledgeable Christian journalist who intellectually put him (Dawkins) in a corner and to save himself (Dawkins) said -- perhaps...
  20. ProDeo

    Who Created God

    What ?!