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  1. Episkopos

    Who ARE "the prophets" in Ephesians 2:20?

    So true. The title of the OP should read "who ARE the prophets".... and not "who WERE the prophets".
  2. Episkopos

    Trinity Ban

    You must be a "Binatarian" if you are preaching, or teaching, the truth. The early church taught the Oneness of the Spirit in two Persons, Father and Son...until human conventions based on popularity were convened to make up human creeds. The truth will never be popular. Hear O Israel, the Lord...
  3. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    False. Only those who enter INTO Christ partake of righteousness on the level of God..in holiness. There is no sinful holiness...or pretend righteousness. False. A gift of grace is something we are to do something with...not bury it. False. You are making up your own verse...not found in the...
  4. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Agreed. Behold is positing that God recognizes that we sin by the righteousness of God...making Christ a minister of sin. In English we tend to think there is a difference between "justice" and "righteousness"...but in other languages...including Greek and Hebrew, these terms are synonymous...
  5. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    A lot of people read that and misunderstand how the walk in Christ works. Romans 6 is about leaving sinfulness behind to serve God in righteousness. Even though we be slaves to righteousness...we still sin as per Rom. 7. An intolerable situation. And this is where many will go astray. Having...
  6. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Not backslidden...that would mean I am no longer walking in obedience to God. If you can understand the 2 steps into holiness From sinfulness to righteousness and from righteousness into holiness. The training of a saint involves going in and out of the Spirit. The whole purpose is to be...
  7. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    as in...no longer I but Christ doing the sinning???? Distort the reality and live the lie. :rolleyes: :ummm:
  8. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The cross IS the price...that WE pay...to be crucified in His death so we can be brought into new life in Him. Stop thinking of the cross as only for Jesus. If you ever want to be a disciple of Christ you need to go to the cross yourself.
  9. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    Instead of looking for instruction in Mormonism... which I know nothing about...you should ask me for instruction in righteousness, holiness and the gospel. After you learn about that we can proceed into deeper truth. Seeing your desire to learn more about being a Mormon, I suggest you talk to...
  10. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes. But there is a cost to experiencing the spiritual walk that is superimposed on this temporal walk. The cost is ALL. The parables of Jesus make that clear....and this can be experienced. When we find the treasure...or are shown the treasure...think "Born-again of the Spirit"....we have to...
  11. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Actually an even greater honour is to walk where Jesus walked in His eternal light WHERE He is. Fewer and fewer share God's love of Zion where divinity and humanity come into ONE.
  12. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Biggest honour so far...you mean. Now you have shut down the whole process based on your own evaluation of a free sample of grace. Make sure no one takes it from you...maybe bury it to keep it safe? :oops:
  13. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The Jerusalem which is above the mother of us all...those who have been birthed anew from Zion.. In the Septuagint Ps 87 reads like this... renton's Septuagint Psalms 87:5 A man shall say, Zion is my mother; and such a man was born in her; and the Highest himself has founded her. I may be...
  14. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    That's better. Unless one is born again one cannot either see or enter into God's kingdom realm. But do you understand what that means? It's like saying unless one is born of flesh one cannot see or enter into planet earth. Basic stuff. Unless we are born INTO Zion and the realm of the SPIRIT...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I can't give a good answer to a bad question. Improve your question and you will get a better answer. You are still at the stage where there is no sense to your questioning...like what colour is 5? How can one answer seriously something like that?
  16. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    An excellent analogy. Taking that plant outside to grow big and tall is akin to taking our sample of grace to plant it in God's garden...where God is...in His abode in Zion in the Spirit...being translated into the kingdom of His dear Son...so that it can grow into the likeness of Christ. What...
  17. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Required for what? Do you even know? Or is this something that you are so indoctrinated you act like a zombie saying...I must have...I must have (not knowing why, of course) :running:
  18. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Unlike Jesus, we don't get an unlimited amount of grace. :) We get enough for the task at hand. We have each received a measure of faith....and a measure of grace. A measure means not the full amount. Like a downpayment. Yes, that's how it works. Without that kind of spiritual birth we are...
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    How to : Overcome

    It appears you have achieved the same level of understanding the Mormon doctrine as that of the gospel...namely...nothing. :goodj:
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    We live in a temporal world...born into it as human beings, from OTHER human beings...limited to what we experience through our natural senses. To be born of the Spirit is by the will of God...opening us up to eternal possibilities in Christ...(the HOPE of glory)...by giving us a sample of His...