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phonemen lol same thing fellow, choices we make are actions of ours ! So again, you condition Salvation on man. Thats not good friend

More on Rom 4:25 Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. When the Lord Jesus Christ was delivered up for the offences of all those given to Him in Election, and bore their sins in His Body on the Tree, He did meet all the Judicial demands of...

Okay, I see you condition final salvation on man. Gotcha

okay but do you have a conviction on osas ? Does the bible teach it ? If so what scripture do you use to witness it, and if not, why not ! Thanks

Man naturally doesnt seek after God because we by nature are 100% carnal, even in our morality and religiosity. Scripture declares that the carnal mind is enmity against God, the True God that is Rom 8:7 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God...

So friend do you have a conviction on this important issue?

Sorry He never Loved them. You can oppose it all you want, call it Calvinism if you want, changes nothing !

phoneman777 Never, impossible. You wont and cant say that to part of yourself. Its His Church, Bride and Body that has this spiritual union with Him Eph 5:23-32 Nope !

The ones Jesus says " i never knrew you" to, He knew them full well with His omniscience, for He knows every being that way, the righteous and the wicked, for He is the Judge of mankind. But Jesus meant to them of Matt 7:23 is that He never knew them as His People, them He Loved, He never died...

Then He never loved them, since He always Loved and knew His Sheep He died for Jn 10:14-15 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Was raised again for our justification. Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. He was raised again for our Justification, meaning this, The Resurrection of Christ did rightly signify, that as our Surety and Head, when He died with our sins...

Man by nature is without hope and without God ! Eph 2:12 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: So therefore man naturally doesnt seek for the True...

Thou hast received gifts for men ! Ps 68:18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them. As part of His Salvation Accomplishment for all those He died for, The Lord Jesus...

That is the reason why men have to be born again.

Now do men ever seek after the True God ? Acts 17:26-27 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel...

Has given the Victory ! 1 Cor 15:57 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Everyone that Christ died for, has been given the Victory. Its not that He made victory available or that it's offered to one and all upon conditions, thats false teaching...

bluedrag Not the True God Rom 3:11 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. man can and will seek after a god !

okay. Jesus could have laborers that they didnt know about. Your point is mute

That doesnt tell me much, for many on there way to hell who did things in Christs name Matt 7:22-23 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess...

By nature, there is nothing in us, in regards to our sinful flesh/nature which causes us to seek the True and Living God, neither to even understand the things of the True God Rom 3:11 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. This isn't altered until we are...