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And hearing comes by being born of God Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

I know that. Nevertheless, drawing one and saving one are the same. So all whom He draws, He saved.

When Jesus says He will draw men to Him, He is actually saying He will save them, convert them to Himself. See you think erroneously, that drawing to Christ is merely Christ giving men an opportunity to get saved, isn't that right ?

The Purifying effects of the Blood of Christ ! Many in mans religion sing the song: Yet they do this merely in a form of godliness, and they deny the actual Power therein 2 Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Yes they deny the power of...

Drawing is the new birth which produces faith.

Drawing is an effect of the New Birth, faith is the effect of the New Birth.

Thats speaking of all Gods elect from all different races and classes. They are saved by the cross. Drawing is equivalent to being saved. See how that works ?

It is quite apparent that God's People, those whom Christ died for and accomplished for them the forgiveness of their sins Matt 26:28 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission or forgiveness of sins. And hence God shall remember their iniquities [in...

Now you resort to calling God terrible names.

Thats error, one cannot believe unless they are drawn first Jn 6:44 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

You can preach to the dead but they cant hear you. Lol

Drawing is evidence and consequence of a new spiritual birth. Its life in motion

behold Lol, You can give, preach the Gospel all day long to a dead, death, blind man, he cant hear it, see it, understand it. Jesus told spiritually dead, blind, deaf people Jn 8:43 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. No hearing, no Faith , no...

Yes Drawing is the New Birth, a consequence of it.

I believe I told you this, but drawing is the New Birth. So those Christ was lifted for will be made a new creature and caused to believe in Him. If that doesnt happen, no one will seek God and believe Rom 3:11

Yes really spiritually dead. Dead to God, separated/alienated from God Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Naturally we are to the things of God, dead, alienated...

Draws All Men unto Him ! Jn 12:32 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. An effect or accomplishment of Christ's Death is that all for whom He died shall be saved by Him, shall believe in Him ! All the men that come to Him, just as it is written before in Jn...

Yes they are really dead.

A dead person cant reach out ! If a man is drowned in the water, dead, and someone throws him a rope for him to reach out and grab, will he have the ability, being hes dead ? A dead person cannot believe unto righteousness. Once a person is saved, made alive, then they believe unto righteousness.

davy Yes, and I dont see how its loaded nor silly ! Substitute ? I agree, but that entailed dying for sin, the penalty of sin is death Rom 6:23 so He suffered the penalty of sin, death, for others who deserves to suffer the death penalty for their sins, correct ? I dont see how its a silly...