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  1. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Do you get more bonus points for saying born again like 3 times or more in one paragraph? I'm just trying to understand how you think your reward system works...and what motivates your repetitive redundancies. Born again...born again...born again...How am I doing?...:no 1:
  2. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    it's a secret code shared between Christ and those who have known Him WHERE He is. George Lucas is very smart. But I don't think he made movies to promote a new religion. He saw what is possible ...and adapted it to a sci-fi opera. I hope that doesn't cause you to lose your faith. Going to...
  3. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I have a lot of posters on ignore. No way? We expect America to defend us so that we can spend our money on free healthcare. ;)
  4. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Let's see..do we pray to Odin? :contemplate: Hmmm...no. Do we pray to Confucius? No. What about Godzilla? No! King Kong? No...what about Jesus YES....ding ding ding. Are you satisfied that I can correctly say we are to pray to Jesus? Do I need to simplify even more for you? That is a...
  5. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    That's a lot of bull. :contemplate: I'm asking you to try understanding before posting. Otherwise you know what assuming does. ;)
  6. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    You have what is called an idée fixe. All you have been programmed to think is...Born-again....Born-again....Born-again...bleep bleep. Repeat, repeat, repeat... bleep. Were you born of a woman? Do you have a mother? If so, do you constantly justify any human action by saying...I am born of a...
  7. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Who did that? You didn't answer anyone...just posted without any quotes. It just so happens that America has that kind of human freedom and "know-how" to capitalize on a scheme that brings advancement in profits and the like. So America is a perfect storm to spread a decoy version of the...
  8. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    What do you know about what I "suppose". You have no understanding of this or what you purport to know about concerning spiritual things. That's an OT definition. In the NT it means to be holy and perfect as God is..through the resurrection power of Christ. You are confusing being set apart...
  9. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    That's not what willfull sins consist of. God knows our weakness. All people are weak. The problem is with our strength...our strength to do what you are doing...resisting the truth. Remaining in unbelief. Our resisting going to God...going to the cross...excusing our sins and maintaining a...
  10. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes, the bible has reached into the Great White North....igloo territory. As you can see we also have electricity and internet. A lot of it is powered by polar bears chasing seals on a treadmill. ;) Yes...unless one is indoctrinated into an American style gospel. I think so. But human...
  11. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    You are confusing a righteous restitution with atonement. If restitution was all that was required to have intimacy with a holy God..then the law of Moses would have sufficed...no need for Jesus to die to provide us a new and living way to have fellowship with the Father. We are to restore...
  12. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Note to beginner bible readers. Corinthians is NOT Acts. In Acts those who were baptized in Jesus name still had to have hands laid on them to receive the baptism of the Spirit. THIS is from Acts (Notice this is NOT Corinthians for you bible enthusiasts out there) Acts 8:16 (For as yet he...
  13. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Not so. Baptism in the Spirit involves going to God and being put under the shadow of His wings in a full measure of grace. When someone is baptized in the Spirit they are filled to overflowing with His power and life. Many today...maybe because they don't visit people physically anymore...
  14. Episkopos

    Subjective Religions and the Objective Gospel

    How did Abel get accepted? And why didn't Cain? Why was Cain jealous of his brother? If they were like modern believers they would have both just assumed that they were accepted. Modern believers think that God gives them the choice if they are saved or not. The whole modern church is based on...
  15. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Are you saying that Jesus only saves at a future date? In your scheme is there ANOTHER covenant coming to take away the sins of Jacob? And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my...
  16. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Wrong question. All Israel will be saved. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
  17. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    So you are saying that the Israelites were just claiming to be God's people...but weren't? Is this from a psychologist' point of view? Or the bible? And since you are ignoring the bible...is it My people perish for lack of knowledge? Or those who SAY they are My people perish for lack of...
  18. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes...the sins that are past...as the bible teaches. Whoever sins willfully after that is NOT covered by that...according to that very same bible. What is willful sin? The same sin as the Israelites in the wilderness....testing God through stubbornness and unbelief. Hey, just look at those who...
  19. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Here is truth that will get religious posers in a snit. ;) When you get a sample of something (like grace at regeneration)...it is free...no cost. When you desire the product to the point where you go to the company that produces the product to BUY it...THEN you become known to the company...
  20. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    I'm not saying that he is a good Mormon...just a Mormon wannabe. ;) He is studying your book...why? Ask him? He's grasping at straws to explain away his own ignorance of the gospel and the bible generally.